• @msage
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    11 month ago

    People do that to Catholic church as well, does that make you feel like EVERY clergy man is a predator?

    It’s just a coincidence, but frequent enough, to make that connection.

    Same as here. And those same homophobes and fragile masculiners will sing praises about well-built male bodies. And keep almost exclusively male company.

    There are people who oppose gay marriage because it works for them politically, but if their base shifted opinions, would support it 100%. But they keep it all on the down low.

    • Flying Squid
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      01 month ago

      People do that to Catholic church as well, does that make you feel like EVERY clergy man is a predator?

      Sorry, are you saying being a priest is an inherent trait?

      • @msage
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        11 month ago

        You choose to be a priest, exactly as you choose to be openly bigoted and build your entire platform around it.

        • Flying Squid
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          11 month ago

          You don’t choose to be queer.

          And, again, every time someone says something homophobic, people claim they’re secretly queer.

          No one claims all pedophiles are priests, but people claim all homophobes are queer.

          Would you claim all antisemites are Jews? If not, what’s the difference?

          • @msage
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            11 month ago

            Do you see a string of anti-semites discovering they are jewish?

            No.

            Do you see stream of homophobes caught with gay porn/orgies?

            Yes, you do.

            It’s nothing more than that. That’s the difference, and that’s why people react this way.

            People don’t think too deeply about that. You make it seem like there is a conspiracy behind it, and that only gays can be homophobic.

            I would say that everyone is a little big queer, and the more people deny it, specially going overboard, that means they are scared of it.

            Why would people be scared of something so innocent? Most likely toxic masculinity or religious lies.

            • Flying Squid
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              01 month ago

              People don’t think too deeply about their biogted beliefs all the time.

              And, based on your “everyone is a little bit queer” reasoning, “everyone is a little bit disabled” with various problems so that means that anyone who is ableist and denies that and goes overboard isn’t a bigot, they’re a disabled person who is scared of being disabled.

              Do you believe that?

              Maybe you should think more deeply about such a belief rather than keep acting like that “queer people are the cause of their own oppression” is a reasonable position to hold

              • @msage
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                11 month ago

                How is being disabled the same as being queer?

                And nowhere did I say they are not bigots. They are. There are many bigots, most of which keep it to themselves.

                Then there are bigoted loudmouths, who have a history of being gay.

                Nothing from that even remotely suggests that queer people are the source of their own opression.

                • Flying Squid
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                  01 month ago

                  Both being disabled and being queer are inherent, immutable traits that people can claim are on a spectrum and “everyone is a little bit” either of them.

                  Yet somehow ableists aren’t all disabled. But, according to you all homophobes are queer. So yes, that does mean that queer people are the source of their own oppression. Because only queer people are oppressing queer people by your own claim.

                  • @msage
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                    11 month ago

                    Did you not read my post or do you like putting words in my mouth?

                    I explicitly said something else than what you wrote, so have a good one and enjoy yourself, I’m out.