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    Wouldn’t that even more of a reason to protest? It’s almost a meme at this point, but the US is the only developed country without universal healhcare. But people keep voting for the party that countless times has threatened to cut even Medicare.

    And if a random dude in Germany knows this, every voter in Bumfuck, Nebrahoma should, too, but here we are.

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      Almost half of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck. One day of missed work means that their kids could starve.

      It’s just not that simple. Believe me, we all wish it was.

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        It could be as simple as voting for the right person (Bernie Sanders in the past, maybe AOC in the future), but the fact is most Americans believe what billionaire TV told them and don’t want Universal Healthcare.

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          I think you’re underselling the effects of fifty years of deliberate, targeted propaganda a bit. This isn’t the result of measured thought, this is what happens when you allow a right-wing media apparatus to operate unchallenged for generations. (Not alone, other factors like our national narrative of self-reliance and an erosion of resources and respect for public education are significant. As well as racism since we never properly dealt with the losers of the Civil War)

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      Don’t worry, neither party gives a shit about healthcare. It doesn’t matter who we vote for.

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        Bernie Sanders thinks otherwise. But people seem to prefer Clinton and Biden.

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        neither party gives a shit about healthcare

        Were you born in the last decade or do you not remember Democrats moving mountains just to get Obamacare passed? Which gave me affordable healthcare when I had none.

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          I worked in health insurance when that happened.

          The insurance companies were ecstatic about Obamacare. A big ole fat blank check from the American public, backed by the US government. They had to cover more but the feeling was, and it ended up being true, that they’d claw back their exclusions in court.

          Obamacare was a health insurance scheme in a healthcare costume. Maybe at inception it was about healthcare, but after the Democrats spent months trying to negotiate with Republicans and giving them pointless compromise after compromise, and the Republicans still refused to support it, they passed health insurance reform, mandated everyone buy it, and paved the way for the fastest increases in health insurance costs in history.

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      I mean, the democrats haven’t given us healthcare either, despite having had the opportunity more than once. Best they’ve done is make a nationwide marketplace and told us we have to buy healthcare from one insurance corporation or another, or we get fined in the form of additional taxes for not contributing to billionaires.

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        They didn’t have the votes to pass anything better, and even this the Republicans tried to undo.

        Now without McCain (or some similar with some convictions), you can kiss Obamacare goodbye. And I’m 90% sure they will repeal it without a replacement.

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          And I’m 90% sure they will repeal it without a replacement.

          Oh absolutely. Look what happened when McCain shot down the last effort. They didn’t go back to the drawing board and re-work it and try again. They just gave the fuck up. After spending years saying they could do better than Democrats.

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        I mean, the democrats haven’t given us healthcare either

        They gave me affordable healthcare when I was younger (Obamacare). It isn’t always about getting exactly what you want, because you never will in politics. It’s about scraping and clawing and fighting to get anything, at all. And in my lifetime I’ve gotten WAY more out of Democrats than Republicans. Respect where respect is due. It took a monumental effort for Obama to get that shit done.

        Baby steps to universal healthcare.

        But we just lost dozens of baby steps by electing Republicans. Good job voters.