• @jasory
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    The question is not whether or not someone should suffer, but whether it is permissible to kill another, or even a proper choice. Should assisted suicide be granted for temporary conditions? After all subjects of temporary conditions suffer too and they may even wish to die. If you say no, then clearly your decision making is able to override a desire of the subject. If you say yes, then there is no logical barrier to killing any momentarily sad person.

    “Who are you to judge … Why do you refuse to answer”

    I’ve been answering this entire time. The answer is everyone is able to judge, there appears to be this underlying fundamental intuition and logic across humans that if followed leads to the statements I’ve made.

    Feeling sad for someone and wanting to alleviate there suffering does not logically lead to “therefore we should actively kill them”.

    • gregorum
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      11 months ago

      The question is not whether or not someone should suffer

      That’s the only question. Because the standard here is “irremediable lifelong physical and/or psychological suffering”. By labeling such a person “momentarily sad” you’re not only judging them, you’re placing your judgement above that of medical professionals. You’re also lying about the necessary conditions for consideration for the program.

      And aiding in a person’s suicide with their consent is not the same as simply killing them.

      You can’t have an honest, rational discussion, like an adult, then there’s no point in continuing

      • @jasory
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        111 months ago

        “Because the standard here is ‘irremediable lifelong physical or psychological suffering’”

        AND WHO DECIDES THIS? The patient? No. The doctors, because their is no right to suicide, certainly not one that overrides the prohibition against active killing. It’s merely a courtesy that is permitted because it gives some people fuzzy feelings, that’s it. Euthanasia is popular because it panders to the emotions of everyday morons like you.

        If there was a right to suicide then the doctors opinions could not possibly matter, the patient must die if they want it.

        Thank you for proving my point, despite being too stupid to understand it.

        “And honest rational discussion”

        I’ve played incredible softball here, normally I would request formal deductive arguments since you know most ethicists know how to construct them. (Not you though, your intellectual bar is six feet under).