• eksb
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    8 months ago

    Apparently everybody before 1800 was a bad parent.

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      8 months ago

      “You don’t have have air conditioning, it’s not safe for your kids to be here!” - someone in 1800 probably

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      Apparently everybody before 1800 was a bad parent.

      On the one hand, I wouldn’t be surprised.

      On the other hand… that’s probably why youth were so eager to move out so quickly!

      (That may not actually be the case…I’m just kidding here, lol)

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      Ah yes, I forgot we still live in 1800s. Also people back then were not fine and had all sorts of mental issues. Taking the kids away is of course the wrong move, but often might be the only way so parents improve. But a child deserves it’s own bed and room. Also get reunited with their parents asap once condition improved.

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        8 months ago

        1800s? Siblings share rooms all the time today. Many, many, many children growing up right now in the United States are sharing a room with their sibling. I have no idea why you think this would be abnormal.

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          Moving the goal post. Siblings sharing is not the same as sharing the room with their parents and even the bed. Also 1800 said the guy before me, that’s not my take. I also didn’t say that siblings sharing a room is abnormal. You said that.

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            I’m pretty sure you are the one moving the goalposts here since this is about keeping parents from having access to their children because of issues like that, as the linked article discusses.

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              You are unable to read and your incompetence is rude too, because you only learned to twist words but not to understand. Why did they lose their kids to begin with, huh? Because of no own room. Also do you read what people commented, under which I replied to, which then changes the topic slightly? The discussion is in context and not what you think it is. People who are smart, are able to talk about multiple things in one thread. I also already said on multiple places, that they should’ve got back their kids asap. Your brain skipped that part at least twice.

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              DFCS wouldn’t let them stay there unless she had at least one for her daughter and another for her sons, she said.

              She has trouble with providing space for her kids, so later them getting older, in their late teens, requiring more space, will once again cause issues. Pretty logical why they didn’t give custody back to her, as she’d create another case in a few months/years. No that’s not good for the kids.

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                Insulting me doesn’t change the fact that you claimed that siblings sharing a room causes mental illness:

                Ah yes, I forgot we still live in 1800s. Also people back then were not fine and had all sorts of mental issues. Taking the kids away is of course the wrong move, but often might be the only way so parents improve. But a child deserves it’s own bed and room. Also get reunited with their parents asap once condition improved.

                So sure, you said they should get their kids back, but at the same time claimed that more than one child to a room causes mental illness. So you’re being pretty inconsistent unless you think parents should be allowed to make their children mentally ill.

                Also, it’s kind of weird that you’re accusing me of being rude when you’re the one doing the insulting…

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                  In the room with their parents will likely cause issues, especially now with the growing control freek parents. And later when they are almost adults, sharing a room with siblings, might to a lesser content, cause issues. Brother and sister, will cause a lot of stress. But hey, some call that positive.

                  The biggest issue is sharing it with parents, because some still believe beating their kids is fine and if the kid can’t even hide inside their room and lock the door, they are full out lost. I thankfully had a door to hide from my manic abusive mom. Fuck whoever says their own room isn’t required. Also siblings can be bullies and abuser too, just saying.

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                    Many, many cultures the world over involve parents and children sharing the same room. Are they all mentally ill?

                    And your argument that kids should have their own room because of abusive parents is an argument against abusive parents not in favor of every child having their own individual room. It also has nothing to do with not having that room causing mental illness unless you think indigenous people from Indonesia to Alaska are making all of their children mentally ill and always have.

                    If parents are abusing their kids, take the kids away from them. That is what causes mental illness.

                    Also siblings can be bullies and abuser too, just saying.

                    They can also be very supportive and sheltering if their sibling is being abused by a parent and the siblings share a room. Or did you not consider that? Maybe it’s not as cut-and-dried as you think and you’re transferring your own, admittedly terrible, experiences on the world?

                    I had my own room when I grew up but I didn’t have a lock on my door. I never felt I needed one and if I had one, I never would have locked it. My parents weren’t abusive. If our circumstances went bad and I had to share a one-room apartment with them, they wouldn’t have abused me then either. So why would I have needed a lock on my door?