US Army officer resigns in protest over 'unqualified support' for Israel
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An Army officer has resigned from his intelligence job in protest over the United State’s “unqualified support” for Israel.

He wrote that the justifications for Israel’s war in Gaza became “difficult to defend” and that “whatever the justification you’re either advancing a policy that enables the mass starvation of children, or you’re not.” The post received an outpouring of support with hundreds of likes and comments in just a few hours. …

In his letter, Mann also says that he’s the descendant of European Jews and “was raised in a particularly unforgiving moral environment.”

“When it came to the topic of bearing responsibility for ethnic cleansing — my grandfather refused to ever purchase products manufactured in Germany — where the paramount importance of ‘never again’ and the inadequacy of ‘just following orders’ were oft repeated. I’m haunted by the knowledge that I failed those principles,” Mann wrote.

Mann went on to say that he held off sharing the reason for his resignation because he was afraid of violating professional norms and disappointing officers that he respects.

  • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
    2·
    6 months ago

    This man is part Jewish. It’s not a rare experience for such to be lectured morals on legacy of Holocaust by those who are not. Especially in cases where the state of Israel kills somebody, or someone else wants to use that “they are literal Nazis” political argument.

    Actually if you complain about such insults to your dead, quite a lot of people around will be outraged. At the same time they’ll easily say stupid shit like “for Baltic countries Soviets were worse than Nazis” or something along those lines, when they think you aren’t present.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.world
      2·
      6 months ago

      Two things

      • If you look at how the accusation of antisemitism is invariably used to excuse the actions of Israel, it’s far too often a case of non-Jews telling actual Jews what Jewishness is supposed to be like, sometimes even de facto calling said Jews antisemite (or, other words, “Bad Jews”). If as non-member of a community one is telling members of that community what their community’s values are supposed to be, then it’s probably time for that person to stop and do a little instrospection and hard thinking about their own posture.
      • Being a Jew or part-Jew is not the same as knowing what the Holocaust and Nazism was in all their dimensions and implications and it certainly doesn’t make one a Genocide specialist. Hearing the stories, especially from somebody with an early XX century set of morals or second or third hand is not the same as understanding it in depth, especially with XXI century values - otherwise there would be no needs of History as a Science discipline - even if it feels almost like you were part of it: do not confuse stories of the stories about what happenned with fully understanding what happenned - even people who were in or saw mere accidents or crimes rarelly fully know what happenned: just go read about how humans are far from perfect witnesses, much less 2 or more levels removed from actual witnesses in such a grandiose (not in a good way) event. That’s not an etnicity thing, it’s just human. That said, I can understand how it would feel insulting for somebody whose family was directly hurt by it to hear people whose family were not, casually use those things as references or even preach their moral take on them - kind of like watching somebody piss on one’s ancestors’ graves. That said, for Jews whose family was not affected by those things to do Holocaust-interpretation or Moralizing should also feel equally or almost equally disgusting for those whose family suffered from it - it’s still those who did not suffer preaching to those who did.

      Anyway, my original point is that his was a Humanist behaviour, something that transcends etnicity, even if added to that was also the feeling that people were pissing on the graves of his ancestors due to his actual ancestry. I don’t think it’s necessarily the product of superior knowledge, more of being the kind of person we all should aim to be and a superior awareness of such evilness due to how his own family was affected by something similar.

      • Shyfer@ttrpg.network
        2·
        6 months ago

        Trump did that exact thing in a recent speech (I don’t watch him but I saw the video clip in a recent Daily Show episode). IIRC, he even literally called Jews who don’t support Israel “bad Jews” and ones who do “good Jews”. And he’s not even Jewish!

        • Aceticon@lemmy.world
          2·
          6 months ago

          Shit!

          It seems Trump has already transcended the regular Fascist stereotype and is now aiming at the Nazi one.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
        1·
        6 months ago

        You are not contradicting me.

        Being Jewish for this matter is important as 1) motivation to learn how it really was, 2) being a part of that group and thus subject for that “you are a wrong Jew” thing.

        It’s especially common for ethnic Germans to say #2, both because of #1 and of some reversal fallacy I guess (a reversal seems more fresh and somehow stronger and truer than the first thought on something, there’s a reason “subverting expectations” is such an overused thing in stories).

        Anyway, my original point is that his was a Humanist behaviour, something that transcends etnicity

        I’m sorry, but most people just don’t think like that. The common story with Turks finding out they have some Armenian roots is with them turning away from genocide denial immediately after that. Because first they were in one group and then the latter.

        Ethnicity doesn’t matter, but identity does. If one is not autistic or very conscious of their actions.

        and a superior awareness of such evilness due to how his own family was affected by something similar.

        Which contradicts the part about ethnicity not mattering.

        But yes, interpreting family history like this and not like “now a Jewish state has the right to kill anybody they want to and calling it evil is antisemitism” is something I would expect from a person to become an army officer for the right reasons.

        • Aceticon@lemmy.world
          2·
          6 months ago

          I’m sorry, but most people just don’t think like that.

          I too am sorry that most people don’t think like that :(

          I would say that etnicity should not matter intelectually, but when it anchors one’s identity (which is not always the case, and not just for the autist or very conscious of their actions but also for those who grew up in a situation were their etnicity was treated as irrelevant) it definitelly matters to most at an emotional level and hence will inform some of their motivations.

          That said, whilst I try to understand what motivates others and hence can understand how some people feel on account of their etnicity and thus act driven by those feelings, I will still try to judge them on their actions alone, not any less negativelly when they do “bad” things or any less positivelly when they do “good” ones (as in this case), even if their etnicity explains their feelings and hence motivations for those actions: plenty of people will for example at some point in their lives feel that they hate somebody and want them dead, but most people don’t actually go ahead and kill the other person and plenty of people will endure the feeling of being “one of the bad guys” and not put their careers on the block like this gentleman did.

          • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
            2·
            6 months ago

            but also for those who grew up in a situation were their etnicity was treated as irrelevant

            I grew in Russia, so haven’t experienced such situations very often. It’s either a lot of chauvinism or don’t ask, don’t tell.

            Still, people make identities out of fandoms, even out of fashion which comes and goes in a month.