• Matt@lemmy.world
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    This is how most protests or strikes go in real life too.

    When a protest negatively affects someone, it is the fault of the one(s) who directly caused the effect, rather than those that caused people to protest in the first place.

    If you think broad enough, you can see the parallels to things like public transport strikes or other forms of protest.

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    “This thing does not affect me directly, so clearly its everyone else who is overreacting.”

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      Except it literally does affect them, they’re literally the ones throwing tantrums and whining about how mods and others ruined the subs, without a hint of irony.

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    Lol I’m sorry but these people are idiots. Who shills for rich corporations and lives a happy life?

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      rich corporations

      Reddit never has made a profit. So… they’re not rich.

      I’m not sure that shilling for a poor corporation makes things much better though.

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        Just looked at some of those accounts and they’re less than 2 years old. My guess is, they never used anything other than the official app so to them, nothing will change. Honestly, let reddit keep those users. I’d rather have a conversation with someone who doesn’t have the attention span of a TikTok user.

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          Lol, in this kinds of threads there is always the bitter milennial, that can bare that times change.

          because surprise! those kind of users are here as well! (like me :0 )

          Like just because someone is not an elder person will be in favour of corporate fuckery?

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            Look I am one, but think it is bitter millennials that joined Reddit ten years ago and want old Reddit and working apps. The new new generation are used to new Reddit and corporate millennials are elders now.

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              I think that it would vary by other demographics, too. I don’t personally know any other people around my age (Older Gen Z) who still use reddit, especially after all of this went down. I understand that my personal experience is only one out of billions, so I’m also not necessarily saying that you’re wrong about that either.

              I don’t know, I guess I just wanted to reassure you that not all of the new new generation is following reddit blindly. Many of us are strongly protesting over the principal of how reddit treats their mods and users. Many posters don’t feel the need to include their ages, so I’m not sure we can get a fully accurate read on the age groups just yet.

              Nothing is too big to fail.

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        Omg me too. I know they are just human, and are susceptible to the same crap logic I am, but I can’t put myself there. My only thought, is that they just don’t know. The more you know, the harder you have to work, to maintain some kind of engagement in your life to feed the monster you created in your head. These people are fine floating, and tbh, I envy them AND pity them simultaneously.

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    I’m just glad this type of people will remain on reddit, don’t try to convince them to come here lol. Let them stay in that shitty place, it’s perfect for shitty people

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    These type of people can stay on Reddit for all I care. Just like how all the racist conspiracy boomers stayed on Facebook and similar things happen with Twitter right now as well.

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    Lol, gone full time Lemmy now. I do not miss Reddit! Let them have the Reddit they want. The corpo Reddit under spez, the kind of guy who doesn’t care about the user, just the bags of money he sleeps on at night.

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    I probably wouldn’t trust any vote counts on Reddit about this subject.

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    I meant to ask, why do I get the feeling there is some concentrated effort to try to downplay those people trying to protest?
    I see some of the threads on the subs doing the ‘alternative protests’, and some comments were downvoted massively just for joining in or showing support.

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      They’re are a large number of people that give a crap about anyone else. They use the reddit app and site and dgaf if API gets boned because it “doesn’t affect them”. Well, this affects them, and they’re pissed because they see it as other reditors that caused it.

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        First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist

        Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist

        Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist

        Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew

        Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me

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          Can they just come for the fascists and I’ll speak up for the next group? Is that on the table? I’m just sayin’…err uh asking for a friend.

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      My guess: a contrarian attitude. Though do not underestimate the effect of concentrated, sheer selfishness. They can’t get to see content that they used to, and despite not creating it themselves, or doing ANYTHING other than consuming it, they feel entitled to access it, as if it were “theirs”. So if a user chooses to delete their own, personal content, then you should consider “their” feelings (the whiners I mean, over & above that of the content creator). In short, you are thinking of their responses as containing “logic”, and attempting to rationally process it as such, but it is not! Instead it is emotional, venting language. It’s similar to the “she’s asking for it” thinking - in that NO SHE’S DEFINITELY NOT, but that doesn’t matter to the person saying that…

      Also, the person offering it could legit & literally be an actual child, but whether that’s true physically or merely emotionally, it helps if you think of it that way.

      I should add that some subs - probably very few but I don’t know the details - have legit complaints lobbied against them: like they did a poll, the VAST majority of their users said no, the mod team also unanimously said NO among respondents, but then a senior mod popped in and YES blacked out the entire sub anyway. So the truth is sometimes complicated by nuances like that. I’ve heard justification types of excuses blowing such real events out of proportion as if that is the only type of scenario that ever occurs. (Though again, for those with a… loose affiliation with facts, such details are only tools to bludgeon your opponents with, rather than food for thoughtful consideration. It is entirely up to you to not be swayed by thus though - they aren’t offering to not make such comments in the first place, so you have to choose how you will deal with them.)

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        They can’t get to see content that they used to, and despite not creating it themselves, or doing ANYTHING other than consuming it, they feel entitled to access it, as if it were “theirs”.

        I completely agree with you.

        I was a mod on an advice sub (that I recreated over here), and people would message modmail after posting and say “why is no one commenting on my post”. Like, you aren’t entitled to free advice, you’re asking for it. But people would get legitimately angry whenever they wouldn’t get any advice, or if the advice they got wasn’t what they were looking for.

        The thing that made me the most angry were the people who would delete their post after getting advice. Like people wrote comments for everyone to read, not just for you, and then you go and defacto make those comments private?

        I fully believe that audience of people does not understand that they aren’t the center of the universe and that there are actual people on the other end of comments…

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          The thing that made me the most angry were the people who would delete their post after getting advice. Like people wrote comments for everyone to read, not just for you, and then you go and defacto make those comments private?

          I mean sometimes you won’t want your main account be be associated with some of the questions but that should be what a burner or alter account is for. I imagine if some people are lazy enough to not create a new account they are probably asking already widely documented and answered questions.

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      It’s odd, most subs I frequented had votes to go dark, so majority supported the decision, wonder if it’s now the folks that remain are the minority that voted against the blackouts

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      yeah, one forum I frequented has some people focusing on some bad action from some mods, even tho in the grand scheme it’s a nothingburger

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    I was shocked at the reaction of r/lotrmemes. They seem to have really gone the extra mile to mock and stop the protests.

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      I don’t really trust anyone so deep into a fandom that their primary content consumption and creation is a fan specific meme sub. Their primary thing is engaging with that specific content, and anything that gets in the way is going to be attacked.

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      The audience is nothing without the show. If all the decent content creators leave then they’ll just be left with bullshit fake AITA posts.

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    Let the bootlickers stay behind. Let them delight in the milquetoast conservative snore-fest of mediocrity that waits them. Let them turn Reddit into Quora. Fuck 'em all.