No Google product will ever see my money. I will, however, donate to good content providers, and I do every now and then.

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I don’t fucking care.

This is a good discussion point, rather than an arms race discussion of ads vs adblockers.

Some key points to make are that Google is making a crap ton of money from ads, they are keeping most of it so creators must resort to sponsorships and patreon. Google additionally makes money by selling your profile data.

It’s not like I have a true answer to your question, but a “workable” system should consist of: Google makes money Creators make money Customers are reasonably private The concept of making money isn’t about making the entire system worse, just so you pay for it not to be

My problem with Google is they don’t really care. They’ll burn it all if it makes them money until it’s dead.

There could be some key features that get implemented on a paid tier, but paying is just ads vs no ads.

An equally valid question would be, what can YT do to incentivize you to pay? They could ad features only available to subscribers, but they really don’t.

I would make it a semi walled garden, with free and premium content. Subscription tiers would be for customers and creators alike. Vimeo has a good system (though not perfect) with feature sets only available certain tiers. There’s incentive to upgrade if you want those features.

Here’s a big differentiator though. YT has this magic algorithm that feeds you what it wants to. Creators have no say in that (nor do customers). But if I post a video you like, I want you to watch more of my videos, not videos from somebody else similar to me. YT takes full control, and sends people away just as fast as sending them in. Why would I pay for that?

Platforms like Vimeo don’t do that (I’m not advocating vimeo, they’re just the example I think is most comparable). Wouldn’t having some level of control over that as a viewing customer and content creator have value? No, let’s just slap ads on it.

I can also argue that this goes against my final criterea point, that YT just made things worse with their algorithm and this is just paying to remove it. There was a day where subscribing to a channel meant you got to see their videos. No bell ringing needed.

And I’m sorry I just vomited my brain into these thoughts and wall of text. If you made it this far, bless you.

But this is why I don’t use YT directly. I was with vanced but ended up with newpipe, because its a simple scraper. That fact not only removes ads, but it gives me control of what I watch with my time (which has value). That is the lesson YT forgot, and the root of why any of this is an issue.

I don’t really have a plan for this since I won’t be giving money to far-right propagandists and their spiral of rage attention algorithm.

I only pay capitalists what is absolutely necessary. I will pirate and steal until they go out of business and something that isn’t profit driven comes along.

It should be publicly-funded, like infrastructure. Having a video sharing platform is clearly very important, but I don’t think there are any companies that are both capable of running it and trustworthy enough to do so.

dont threaten me with a good time

It’s actually cheaper to stream videos without ads, less traffic less diskspace ;)

It just got pushed too far. Like Google search itself. Most people are fine with a short ad once in a while, while paying with their invaluable personal data, but they push it too far and make it unwatchable, like Google search itself became garbage because of all the Google pushed SEO bs.

Spend their money that they hoard?

Art should not be produced for profit, because it stops being art. Ideally we would subsidize artists, or better yet provide for everyone’s needs and let them make art in their free time. Forcing us to watch corporate propaganda about fucking dishwasher detergent ain’t it.

They can continue burning money the way they always did; you can’t honestly expect me to give the first fuckin shit for the 21st century robber baron capitalists while they’re actively and provably stealing out of our pockets. You are smoking crack if you genuinely expect that. If they’re not gonna pay me for every millibyte of data, every smallest measurable iota they’ve stolen from me to train their AI models, then they can continue self-subsidizing Youtube without trying to raid my pockets again.

You’re never going to get an honest answer to this question, but props for asking it anyway.

Maybe you can run the servers and pay the engineers with good vibes or praxis?

freetube is also good here

Fuck 'em. I don’t care if they don’t know they’re making things worse for everyone else; fuck 'em anyway.

Yeah, every few 18 months you’ll probably have to get the latest api and re-revance it. But unless they lock up their api somehow, revanced should be good.

And give “the verge” some ad revenue? Or potentially have their trackers on my phone/computer? Nah I’m good.

Last year, YouTube “launched a global effort” to encourage users to allow ads while watching videos or upgrade to YouTube Premium. It also began disabling videos for users with an ad blocking extension enabled.

“We only allow third-party apps to use our API when they follow our API Services Terms of Service,” YouTube says.

To get around this, YouTube once again suggests signing up for the ad-free YouTube Premium.

Not much gained tbh

i chose to read the 41 words of your comment instead 😌

This bot is saving me from having to open the “article”, try to decipher SEO bullshit modern journalism just to find shitpost like this, eat some ads, and unavoidable (at least on mobile) trackers, js, etc. Also personally hate link posts, i wish people put this kind of summaries in the actual post.

Just ignore/block the bot and move on.