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Honesty, I’m OK with slowing down and consuming less if it is night and the wind isn’t blowing. Lets just use that time for rest, instead of being in hyper production mode all the time.
This line of reasoning is broadly underrated. Sure batteries are a thing, but if a liveable world means regular brown outs, I’m cool with it. The alternative after all is so much worse.
Honestly not even brownouts. I was so hyped for the potential of IOT to let distributed power management be a bigger thing. Throw your laundry in the wash when you have enough and just let the electric company trigger it when they’ve got excess or low consumption periods to help balance things.
Instead we get unsecure cameras or DDOS botfarms piggybacking “smart” thermostats or fridges that let you tweet.
Giving the electric company access to turn off my appliances is also a security issue. By all means, let me subscribe to a feed that expresses what the company would like me to do and maybe I’ll set up automations to turn stuff on and off from my end, but there’s no way in Hell I’d cede control of the switch to an entity outside the premises.
Yeah but I also get to play Skyrim on my toaster
The author of this “punk” comment just doesn’t know how the real world works! (/s)
the thing is this isn’t even accurate. Energy storage infrastructure in some places is already capable of keeping things running
bruh. “solarpunk” is the most unrealistic and blank genre. its almost like an Al generated. no realism at all, a lack of style. im not even diving into the fact that its most-used visual representation is freaking YOGURT AD. i think that solarpunk even less realistic than steampunk. like imagine just adding several solar panels and maybe a wind turbine to a factory or any building that consumes electricity. the authors of this “punk” just don’t know how the real world works (what are you going to do when there’s night and no wind?)
It’s so bad you wish it was satire
bruh. 🤦♂️ “solar🌞punk” ☀️ is the most unrealistic and 🙄 blank ◻️ genre. its almost like an AI generated 🤖. no realism at all, a lack of style 💃💃. im not even diving into the fact that its most-used visual representation is freaking YOGURT AD🍦🍦🍦. i think that solar🌞punk 🌱 even less realistic than steam💨punk. like imagine 🧠 just adding several solar panels ☀️ and maybe a wind turbine 🌬️ to a factory or any building 🏬 that consumes electricity⚡⚡. the authors🤓 of this “punk” just don’t know how the real world 🌎 works (what are you going to do when there’s night 🌚 and no wind💨💨💨💨🤣🤣🙂↔️?)"
It’s beautiful 🥹
@huginn @steal_your_face Love it
what are you going to do when there’s night and no wind?
Umm…battery?
what are you going to do when there’s night
sleep
I diagnose you with capitalism (and the resulting lack of imagination how a better world could look like)
Kind of off-topic but I always considered solarpunk to be a somewhat wholesome version of a sustainable future. While the rest of “punk” genres are usually “high X, low life”.
Is it that solarpunk is rather “punk” in the sense of rebellion against the status-quo, or is it something I’m missing and solarpunk also follows “low life” formula?
That part is actually adressed in the solarpunk manifesto:
The “punk” in Solarpunk is about rebellion, counterculture, post-capitalism, decolonialism and enthusiasm. It is about going in a different direction than the mainstream, which is increasingly going in a scary direction.
Thanks, it was a reassuring read, and that answers my question and some more
Imo the “punk” in solarpunk is having any kind of hope for the future, in an otherwise dire world.
Not to say guerilla gardening/grafting isn’t inherently solar punk.
It also appears people forgot about the community focused nature of punk. When your set is only 30 minutes how do you fill out a 2 hour show? You have a community of people that play music you like.
Like traditional punk lifestyles, its just counter-culture as apposed to “low life”
Going against the grain.
I think the “punk” part is about taking a stance, even against the odds and against the system. As such, it can be both revolutionary, and connecting.
It doesn’t matter whether the prospects are good or not. Earlier generations had limited success against the industrial meat grinder, but this time we can do it. Believe in yourself.
Wtf is this? Is this person confusing some sci-fi art style with reality?
I think so. I mean, I’ll agree that a lot of the art tagged as solarpunk is utopian, unactionable, and generally gives a poor first impression of the rest of the genre/movement. The chromed scifi megacities with trees stuck to the sides of skyscrapers are about as attainable as concept art of a flying city or a moon colony. If they never looked past the paintings on deviantart or artstation or whatever they’d probably get a pretty skewed perspective on it.
But I’d say the answer to that is just to make more art that reflects the rest of the movement better since the answers and discussions and real life projects are all happening
Battery punk
It’s gotta be a joke, I mean, c’mon, the delivery is right there.
solar advocates when nighttime: 🫨
Apparently this doofus hasn’t heard of batteries or they are commenting in bad faith and know about batteries
Most definitely bad faith considering you can just Google how solar farms keep electricity.
Dude do you even know how expensive those are? You have to pay five bucks for a ten pack of AAs. How long do you think those will power your fridge?
buying non-rechargeable 🤢 I guess if you’re going for apples to apples with fossil fuels this is a good comparison
"Solar"punks when it’s nighttime (they revert to fossil fuels 😔) \s
Solar punks with windmills, smh.
They have played us for absolute fools
🤯 I never considered when night and no wind https://www.yahoo.com/tech/california-briefly-used-batteries-biggest-173554740.html
Bro is mad that the new genre doesn’t have a lot of visual representation
