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I could rant about this for hours. Let’s see what BBC says…
Thought so. It’s trying to find the middle ground and talking about “UPF science” like it’s the the law of gravity, instead of recognizing that it’s a novel science with little evidence and a very shoddy classification system.
Most of the “UPF is the Devil” proponents don’t seem to understand that it’s a trojan horse for Big Meat.
I remember reading one of the UPF food studies where they were like upfs cause heart failure and the Aussie diet is very high and the Italian diet is very low. So I looked at statistics and heart failure is more common in Italy as a cause of death and life expectancy is lower.
Fuck me for thinking there’s probably important differences between salami, twinkles, and sweet potato burger patties.
I have an Italian relative who got several gastric surgeries in order to keep eating lots of cheese and meat. They have a huge superiority complex over their “cucina”, much like the French.
Partly to blame is how the “Mediterranean Diet” has been promoted as something geographic, which means cultural, instead of the actual substance. So perhaps people who live in the area think of themselves as already doing it because they’re there, and not realizing that the MD is defined, even has a score system, and it’s mostly plants.
Perhaps the paper you saw was focused more on stroke than on CVD: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2633/2022/06/G20-CVD-Report_vFinal.pdf
It was a study within Australia, like among Aussies upfs apparently lead to an increase in CVD. I looked at there definition of upf though and was baffled as to how it could be useful given it covered everything from inverted sugar with red 5 and soybean oil to ground TVP, seitan and spices held together with plant gum.
Generally it’s my impression that nutrition science is a bit garbage. To be fair it’s extremely difficult to study. Nonetheless it’s prone to fads and shall we say statistical massaging.
I just really struggle to believe that your average person should spend much time freaking out over upfs vs adding some cardio and eating a bowl of oats once a day or something.
In the Nova system, a food product is considered ultra-processed if at least one of its ingredients is a substance that home cooks generally don’t use
I use a lot of citric acid and MSG in my cooking but I don’t see why that should be bad
MSG got a bad rep it didn’t deserve. Table salt on the other hand … I’ve had to wean myself off NaCl because it’s bad for blood pressure. MSG makes food delicious and causes no harm. Umami mmm.
NaCl isn’t bad for you. It’s like anything- in moderation it’s fine. You actually need salts of various kinds to be healthy (including NaCl)
The way i have learned that the ratio of natrium and kalium is a more important factor than the actual amount(in reasonable amounts). At least in my country that has led to popularity of table salt that has had about 30-60% of it’s NaCl replaced with KCl.
Yes, I guess I mean weaning off excess salt. I feel now that too much salt deadens your taste buds so that moderately salted food seems bland.
Yeah I never add salt to my food, it’s either got salt in it already or doesn’t need it as far as I’m concerned- don’t need another vice to have to wean off in my 50s.
I think UPF foods are absolutely disgusting and almost never eat any plant-based analogues. Sometimes I will eat dry TVP but not very often and I’m not sure if that is processed or ultra processed, it has a single ingredient - defatted soy flour.
I never liked cheese so vegan cheese is especially gross to me. I have no desire to replicate meat or eat any American style shit that comes in a box. My own experience in life is people who eat simple foods are more often healthy and people who subject themselves to food science have problems.
I agree with you. Most of the “meat alternatives” taste like shit and I’m tired of pretending like they don’t. One of the main factors in me eventually going WFPB is that I don’t like plant-based versions of non-vegan stuff and would rather make my own food from scratch.
