“ravaged by US intervention” Includes maybe 4 countries at the moment.
This post smells like edgy 20 year old who is in his “I hate America phase”
Alright let me be the first one to type out countries ruined by US intervention. This will be a long thread.
Venezuela
Irak
Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Iran, Cuba
at this exact moment
Didn’t realize China and Russia were raveged by US intervention.
Now do China
You mean the country that the US started a trade war with?
Lol that’s your example? You know that every single country in the world has trade agreements and ‘wars’ with eachother, right?
By “trade war” do you mean “we stopped agreeing to buy their cars and to let them buy our soybeans without a lot of additional tarriffs, thereby forcing both us and them to be more independent”? Did we ravage China by stopping buying their products? Would it have been less interventionist to continue to exploit their cheap labor?
Ah yes because it’s Yeltsin’s fault that Russia is the way it is right now.
Unpopular opinion, but I always find this kind of thing funny. US is damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
We get involved, we’re imperialist swine that only care about our interests.
We don’t, and are scrutinized for letting bad things happen.
No one asked the US to fund death squads in south America
Not even the Ford Motor Company or Chiquita?
No human asked the US to fund death squads in south America
there, fixed
I for one promise that I will never criticize the US for “letting bad things happen” by being “too isolationist.”
It’s just the liberal hawks who believe their own propaganda and genuinely managed to convince themselves against all evidence that US foreign policy is driven by benevolence who criticize the US for “letting bad things happen.”
Same, when I beat someone up because I want their lunch money, people call me a thieving swine but if I stand by and do nothing when someone murders a woman a child in front of me, I get blamed for letting bad things happen.
I’m damned if I do, damned if I don’t. Getting involved in things sure is hard.
Sorry, I’ll be more consistent.
Sincerely,
The Only Other Person on the Internet
The whole “hating America” schtick is nothing more than an incredibly cynical way of shutting down criticism.
There is nothing more Un-American than the lie that you must accept your country as-is, faults and all, without license to offer so much as a shred of criticism. We do not have to choose between “status quo” and “worse”. We can choose better.
If the time ever comes where “better” is truly not an option, then we will have fully transformed into the third world country that we’ve been so derisively invited to relocate to.
There is nothing more Un-American than the lie that you must accept your country as-is, faults and all, without license to offer so much as a shred of criticism.
Really? I find that very typical for Americans.
That’s actually really well put.
Do you think Americans will use what last chance of hope is left to transform their country tho? I don’t think better is an option without something really terrible happening.
Well some more hate would maybe people motive to stop their terrorist shithole from doing terrorist shithole things.
It doesn’t work like that.
You are vastly more likely to become what people tell you you are than to go “Wow, people keep telling me I’m an asshole, I should try being nicer.”
Not how that works
No, it doesn’t. You’d think it should, but why would anyone give a shit. At least Russians and Chinese and back then the Nazis had the excuse that they’d get vanished over night.
We do not have to choose between “status quo” and “worse”.
We don’t?
Choosing between the status quo and worse is exactly how FPTP elections with unlimited corporate sponsorship works.
Can that change? Sure! No idea how.
