• MiltownClowns@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I worked at Goodwill sorting donations 20 years ago. This is nothing new. They price according to what they think they can get for it. And if we got in designer stuff that we thought we could make money off of, there was a Goodwill website we sold it on. This is the way it’s always been.

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      1 month ago

      They’re also upfront about it: Goodwill exists to give (mainly disabled) people jobs, not to sell things as cheap as possible

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        Don’t make me laugh. They get their product donated, they get their labor at subminimum, and they sell at market price. That’s not a non profit that exists to help the people working there. It’s exploiting them and extracting money from them and the shoppers who are deceived into thinking it’s a thrift store.

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        Goodwill exists to make rich people richer. The disabled people they “exist to give jobs too” are super exploited.

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        1 month ago

        Then why does anyone donate shit to Goodwill. I thought they purposely sold things cheap so that people that needed it could afford it.

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          This is a common misconception with “charity shops” in the UK and “opportunity (op) shops” in Australia.

          The assumption is that the charity/opportunity is for people doing it tough to be able to buy cheap clothes and home goods.

          But the “charity” is because many shops like this are partner retailers of larger charity organisations, eg: the “profit” from Salvos stores helps indirectly fund Salvation Army Housing and food relief programs.

          The opportunity comes from who they hire, if you’re disabled or elderly, these shops are more likely to hire you than other retail providers.

          But of course, a large number of charity and op shops abuse their staff as much as Amazon and Walmart do. Wage theft and unethical labour practices galore

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          That’s been their marketing for decades. It’s been coming unraveled recently though. There are actual thrift shops that charge enough to keep the doors open and do their other projects. There’s also homeless and near homeless donation places that will take your stuff in and use it to furnish a place given to a homeless person.

          Really we should have all been very sus of a “thrift store” with Goodwill’s marketing budget.

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    Goodwill is built on under paying it’s labor. They take advantage of laws that allow them to pay disabled people whatever they want. The laws were meant to help provide labor, get disabled people back into a productive life, and provide some extra income so they weren’t completely reliant on Social Security.

    That sounds noble right? Well Goodwill has been caught paying people less than a dollar an hour. And as you see here, they aren’t giving discounts to the people who have to shop at a thrift store either.

    They’re walking away with a massive upwards redistribution of wealth from the lower classes to the upper classes. Also I expect someone will be along soon to yell at me, (a disabled person), about the dignity of work and how no one else is providing it. Also in this picture, the meat packing industry which has been caught using mentally disabled people for less than minimum pay in dangerous conditions.

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      Hi, I’m disabled although I’m still working (at the moment, may break further). I agree with you.

      The biggest issue to consider for any company hiring a significantly disabled person, whether mentally, physically, or both, is they’ll be less productive and may require much more oversight, meaning they contribute less to the company. This is the justification behind the lower pay. It makes sense if you’re a shit sack capitalist that values production above anything else.

      With that being said, Goodwill is absolutely taking advantage of the disabled. They’re ostensibly a non-profit charity that exists to provide employment, leading to training and work experience, to the disabled community. They pay their disabled employees the lowest amount possible, actively working to justify low pay. Imagine if your employer was constantly looking to drop your salary so you had to constantly fight them over it. Now pretend you have a significant TBI or are developmentally disabled (just imagine your mental capacity while drunk, but without the feeling good) and still having to fight that. Welcome working for Goodwill.

      Fuck Goodwill right in their “charity” hole.

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    It’s a for profit business, running off of donations, employing people with disabilities so they can abuse them. Not surprised

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    I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen a price that high at my local Goodwill. Coats only go up to like $16 here.

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    I hate Goodwill out here. They have the least selection of crap, and charge absurdly high prices like this. I go to another local chain of thrift stores called The Hope Chest. There’s like 4 of them around here and they rock. Usually go there for pants because I can find good quality materials and spend like $5 for 6 pairs.

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        If they’re free market then they aren’t a thrift store, charity, or a non profit.

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          They’re non-profit because the profit isn’t their focus - they have a specific mission. They’re a charity because they use the money they raise for a social cause. It’s free market because they set prices based on the buying behavior of the public. When they price too high, more of the public decides not to buy or buys elsewhere.

          It can be all three.

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              So what you wrote before was not what you meant. You meant because they deceptively market themselves, they aren’t a thrift store, charity, or non-profit.

              I don’t know enough about Goodwill to be able to judge that. I’m only saying that charities selling goods, even donated goods, at market prices to raise money for their cause is not at odds with their status or necessarily their mission.

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                Sorry sometimes I do steps in my head. But yeah charity doesn’t come from a place of deception. If they said we’re selling to the middle class to raise money for the lower classes then that would be okay.

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          But let’s also be fair, as in “I gave it to them for free out of convenience while getting rid of the stuff that I’d feel bad just throwing away”

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            I wouldn’t say donating to Goodwill is convenient. It’s more convenient to just throw it away. And reduce/reuse/recycle is a good thing. The bad thing here is Goodwill is blocking the three Rs by marking up the price. Which means they will probably just throw it away eventually because no one will buy it for that. Hopefully they will at least send it to a garment recycler later so that it’s laundered and then shredded to either r make new clothing, or stuffing for pillows or boxing bags.

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              That’s why I said “that I’d feel bad throwing away”.

              The stages for high end go like this: sent to “goodwill boutique” and/or listed online. Sent to cheaper local goodwill with markdown. Added to cheap-item-Sunday (for ones that still do that). Sent to bulk outlet (where people fill a bag and pay one price for entire bag or by the pound). Finally, recyclers

              So they don’t block it so much as delay I suppose. But they’ve gotten good at regionalizing their processes

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    Frequent thrift shopper, I’ve noticed prices going so high I wonder if they know what “thrift store” means anymore.

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      all companies take advantage of poor people, the poors are terrible at making long term decisions because they don’t have enough capital to afford them.

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        While true, there are levels, just like dante’s circles of hell. Not all companies entire business models are specifically designed to take advantage of people’s good nature and/or poor people’s desperation…

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    Almost everything in the Goodwill in Rochester, MN is brand new.

    Weird as fuck. And we’re not talking just things like brand new clothes, we’re also talking about things like HDMI cables still in the packaging or clearly unused garden ornaments.

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      ROCHESTER, MN, MENTIONED RAHHH 🐺🐺🐺🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 WHAT THE FUCK IS BAD HEALTHCARE ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🐺🐺🇺🇸🇺🇸🐺🇺🇸🇺🇸

      My wife and I love thrifting in Rochester for that reason, especially with MN’s tax-free clothing.

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      There was a big expose in them in the early 90’s about how much the top got paid, that 80% of income went to paying staff, and rampant nepotism.

      Fuck Good Will

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      What makes you say “never has been”? This is obviously shitty but I remember that maybe 10 years ago they had more affordable pricing for the less fortunate who couldn’t buy new clothes.

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      Why all the hate towards Goodwill ? They are a non-religious, pro-labor, vocational organization that gives everyone a chance at employment through donations and sales of donated goods programs that fund other vocational services as a non-profit.

      people treat them like a dumpster. but they are not a dumpster. and they work towards the good with people in difficult situations.

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      Forgive me if I didn’t detect the sarcasm. But the color is goodwills discount system. On any given day the red tags might be discounted, or the blue. It is a way to clear out stuff more consistently.