If you’re reading this I’d recommend against joining the ml or hexbear chat groups
Please join the actual Blahaj Matrix group instead as it is moderated by Ada
Blahaj Sidebar:
We have a public matrix channel for all Blahaj users at #blahaj:chat.blahaj.zone
If you’re looking for the support channel, rather than the general chat channel, you can find it at #blahaj-support:chat.blahaj.zone
Agreed. Hexbear especially is using trans people primarily as a shield against criticism. You will not find a community there.
Speaking as an admin that had to deal with them.
You are simply lying, it is very easy to find a community in hexbear’s trans spaces.
Their regular trans megathread is there right now if you’d like to partake instead of lying about trans people.
it’s so fucking frustrating and upsetting seeing people like you speak over trans people, lie about us, and erase us when it’s inconvenient for you constantly like this. you are seriously a massive piece of shit
Hey @[email protected],
I’m unsure what happened here to spark this but the concern around Hexbear is genuine given they have had a longstanding history of abusive conduct towards others.
There’s our take which was preemptively defederating them for brigading Blahaj Lemmy, but there’s also additional listed on Fediseer (https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/hexbear.net) by other instances including lemmy.blahaj.zone admins themselves, db0’s instance, and lemmy.world:
- lemmy.dbzer0.com put it fairly comprehensively:
Poor moderation practices against dbzer0 admins: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/25794925 Lemmy.ca defederation statement: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/2120670 Lemmy.world defederation statement: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/1363858
Examples of the whole pip-poop-balls saga and their users’ attitudes: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/1810893, https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/22359207
Hexbear users spend a lot of their time “dunking on the libs” aka trolling, then claiming they are being victimized whenever they get moderated or defederated.
- As did lemmy.world:
Lemmy.World defederated pre-emptively: https://lemmy.world/post/2498330. On the instances they do or did federate with they caused drama: Blahaj https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1997167 and Lemm.ee : https://lemm.ee/post/4543536 or https://lemm.ee/post/5751850. They have a community dedicated to “exposing” libs and harassing them: https://hexbear.net/c/the_dunk_tank. Harassment: https://hexbear.net/comment/3966125. They added a rule to their dunktank sidebar to not go after the instance admins after a plea from lemm.ee admin sunaurus. Other instance users are still fair game. More examples of their users’ behavior: https://imgur.com/a/d63ohQM
I don’t believe that Nate’s comments were in bad faith but were an attempt to warn that Hexbear isn’t all that it seems, and that appears to be the general MO which would put trans users in danger and at risk of harassment.
We may be wrong, and I do hope that the trans communities there are well-moderated, but it’s always not sat right that Hexbear admins ignore the conduct of their users.
Yeah i’m sure the majority 49% of users are simply using the minority 51% of users as a shield to dunk on YOU specifically.
Sounds like nazifur donkeyshit to me
“You won’t find a community there” uhhhhhhhhhhhh, the instance census proved that was a lie
I appreciate the intent of this message, but how sure are you that federated social media like Lemmy is really any safer than Reddit? Not much on here is encrypted, to my knowledge, and instance admins need to respond to subpoenas just like anybody else… In the event of hostile government action, you’re much better off communicating on E2EE platforms, and unfortunately, posting on public social media platforms is a risk.
You can mitigate much of that risk with a burner email and VPN, but you can do that on other platforms too.
Mainstream social media track and identify in non-obvious ways such as browser fingerprinting. If you’re on a federated open source social media site then there’s none of that. If you use a VPN (and if you can’t afford one, Proton offer a free tier) or Tor browser to mask your IP and you’re using a non personally identifiable email address that goes a long way towards protecting yourself.
Beyond that, never posting identifying info about yourself such as the place you live, including the State, will protect you even further.
But I do agree that using an E2EE service is the best way to communicate.
I don’t know a lot about this. If the United States wants to subpoena records from an instance admin based outside of the United States, do they have to comply?
I think it’s pretty murky, ignoring a subpoena is a crime, so US may be able to charge them with obstruction and request extradition, it’s then on their home countries to decide whether to accept the US’s requests. Either way I’m sure it would make them ever traveling to the US very tense.
See: Julian Assange
Remember though, these instance admins are generally doing this out of the kindness of their heart on shoestring budgets, it’s so much safer and easier for them to just comply with legal requests. They’re nice people, but not political martyrs.
Thanks, that makes sense. I wasn’t sure what to even consider for that kind of thing, but I do recognize these admins are just ordinary folks.
For extradition, you’d first have to know who the instance admin is.
I don’t think foreign ISPs will (or are even allowed to) react to a US request for information.
So the US would have to request that info from the foreign country’s government via diplomatic channels.
The decentralized nature of federated social media is the only advantage it has. But it’s kind of a wash. The big social media platforms have resources and weight they can throw at resisting state level surveillance. The operator of the Mastodon instance you sign up for probably doesn’t have a lawyer on retainer let alone the army of legal experts Facebook or X could throw at the problem. That said you can always change instances or use multiple ones to begin with.
Sure, there are things you can do to be safe on Lemmy/the fediverse, but most of those things aren’t inherent to the platform, they’re just good safety practices, and most importantly none of them are mentioned in this “PSA” about “safety”.
I don’t disagree with you. Realistically if you’re serious about security and a state level actor is in your threat model, you probably shouldn’t be using social media at all, but especially not platforms that focus on followers and public posts rather than one-on-one or small group connections. At least not for day to day usage.
I mean this is great except for hexbear and .ml, wtf lol
When I first checked Lemmy this morning, I quickly found three threads from trans communities full of people afraid for their freedoms and even their lives because of the results of the eletion, and another that was a circlejerk about how the election didn’t actually matter. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell.
edit: To clarify, the dismissive circlejerk was on lemmygrad. I actually think lemmy.ml isn’t bad, just a mixed bag sometimes. Lemmygrad.ml is significantly worse, and Hexbear is worst of all. Don’t go there for anything but vibes-based politics that will sacrifice any ideal and any person if it means they can be smug (as smug as the worst liberal) on the internet.
i was going to share this but then i saw hexbear. i’m not sending people to fucking hexbear. ml is bad enough, hexbear is a vile cesspit.
Lemmy lacks the resources to protect anyone; use things that we already have, like tor, instead.
Ah… well… the Tor Project currently receives funding from the US Department of State, and has in the past received funding from DARPA and the US Naval Research Laboratory… (Tor sponsors list)
the federal government currently accounts for well over half of the Tor Project’s overall funding.
Privacy group demands answers about government’s influence on Tor
Just fyi
Relatedly, lie frequently and believably on the internet. Bots and potential doxxers don’t deserve the truth and others will benefit from your efforts in poisoning the well.
Aye.
Lemmy itself is inherently public.
People should be careful what they post anywhere online, including here.
Don’t doxx yourself peopleThe “no takesies backsies” rule of the Internet applies 100x on decentralized platforms like Lemmy, since anything you post is being broadcasted to tons of other instances which can do whatever they want with the info. When you ‘delete’ something on the fediverse, all you’re doing is politely requesting every instance that received the content to remove it.
Also rotate accounts regularly, using different information in each one.
Afaik revolt.chat (real Discord alternative) has a trans community as well.
Install Linux on your computer, install GraphineOS on your google pixel phone or lineageos on any other android phone, get a VPN (Mullvad is the best choice), always encrypt your communications, always encrypt your data (some distros support full disk encryption), find people you can trust, and most importantly be careful.
i recommend Privacy Lock to force entering credentials to unlock the phone if you drop it or shake it, and don’t use fingerprint so you can’t be physically forced to unlock it
Joined the matrix. Not trans, but I’ll support all of you and spread the good word.
edit: they kicked me after I said I wasn’t trans, even though I support them. Oh well.
Please don’t take it personally as there are other groups who do welcome allies, the community is a bit worried at the moment, I’m appreciative of your support!
If you’re not inclusive, don’t expect America to be.
PGP!!!
Exaggerate much?
There are already states with laws to tattle tale on suspected trans individuals. Now the people behind that will have control of supreme court, senate, and likely house majorities along with the presidency to carry out their bigotry. Privacy is an always important thing, especially if 51% of the population of your country just put a giant target on your back.
Of course, you don’t seem to have ever interacted with this instance so coming here to dismiss people’s concerns is not a great look.