• cogman@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Yup.

    I think Biden is wrong for the reasons you lay out. It won’t just be the Russians that suffer from mining.

    WWII ordinances still get pulled up pretty regularly in France.

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      40 minutes ago

      Yeah, sure, because the technology is exactly the same now as it was 80 years ago.

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      15 hours ago

      World War II ordinances didn’t rely on batteries and so remain(ed) dangerous for far longer.

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        13 hours ago

        These are still explosive. While the triggering mechanism may go bad after the battery dies, are the explosive chemicals neutralized? What happens on a shock to the device? For example, if it’s crushed by a vehicle or hit by a plow blade?

        I can grant that these are probably safer than yesteryear’s model, but I also think you are still setting up bobbytraps that are potentially dangerous for decades.

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          10 hours ago

          Most explosives are chemically and physically stable like c4. Driving over them isn’t going to set them off, nor is hitting them with any kind of blunt force.

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      14 hours ago

      I mean they’re being invaded, and by Russia out of all countries. Just like their use of cluster ammunition, they probably decided it’s worth the risk.