There is no evidence this is an official donation fund

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    I’m pretty sure the lawyer said he wasn’t interested in accepting donations. I’d be wary of scams. Just be careful.

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    As per this reddit post, just FYI:

    His full name is registered with the state of PA as: LUIGI MANGIONE.

    Inmate Number QQ7787.

    Currently at SCI Huntingdon (yes HUNTINGDON)

    Address for mail: LUIGI MANGIONE, QQ7787, SCI Huntingdon, PO Box 33028, St Petersburg, FL, 33733

    All mail is scanned by a third-party and then a copy is provided to them, so don’t even think about sending something “extra”.

    To send money (everyone needs money in jail, even $10 goes a long way) you have to go through JPay. And again, need to use his name, LUIGI MANGIONE, and inmate number QQ7787

    DOB is 05/06/1998

    If anyone that’s done time recently in PA sees something is missing in this info, please leave a comment.

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    The thing holding back these donation funds is verification that they’re actually for Mangione’s defense. “The December 4th Legal Committee” could just be a scam.

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    I’ve never heard of “GiveSendGo”, and who is d4legalcomm@gmail.com (the email address listed on the GiveSendGo page)? The fact that it’s some random Gmail is kinda sketchy. Are we sure this is legit?

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      No. In an interview the attorney seemed to not be interested in accepting donations.

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      Wikipedia explains who they are very well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GiveSendGo

      GiveSendGo is a Christian crowdfunding website.[5] GiveSendGo has attracted controversy for allowing far-right extremists to fundraise, including neo-Nazis, white supremacists and hate groups.[15]

      They have also had multiple security breaches.

    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.worldOP
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      It’s probably not legit, which is why I’m holding off until his public defender gives official information about any potential donations.

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        With as advertised as this one is, it would be very difficult for someone to just run away with that money. If there ever is an official one I’m sure the funds would be transferred. But of course we will find out

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      The article is from yesterday, and slightly updated.

      It looks like it’s now up to $83k

      For how hard fundraising for Luigi has been suppressed, I’m shocked it even got this far at all.

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          The trial hasn’t even been scheduled as far as I’m aware. By the time it rolls around that fund is going to be much bigger.

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      I never heard of that place before and I hope a lot of people were not too knee-jerk about it. It wasn’t like, “official” in any sense that I could see.

        • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.worldOP
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          tyranny ˈtɪr(ə)ni

          noun

          1. cruel and oppressive government or rule.
          2. a state under cruel and oppressive government.
          3. cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control.
          4. (especially in ancient Greece) rule by one who has absolute power without legal right.
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            You must know health insurance has a contract with pages of what is covered what is not. But cool, jump on the popular bandwagon for upvotes.

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              Yeah, and King George III had all sorts of shit written down that people in governing roles agreed to. People under tyranny were pretty upset and tried diplomacy back then as well. Violence is what eventually solved it, and the people that went through that wanted to make sure violence was always an option, hence the 2nd amendment. Anyone, Republican or Democrat, that says otherwise is just wrong.

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              A contract you’re basically forced to accept? lol

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              It’s akin to saying one can always choose a different power company if they don’t like the terms. Most people get the health insurance through an employer. The choices you get are minimal if any.

              Unless you’re suggesting the best way to avoid conflict is just don’t get sick. Which is another level of wow.

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              I don’t think recalling 15 pages of legal jargon is on someone’s mind when they need emergency medical care. But hey, they totally deserved it for taking an ambulance instead of driving themselves to the nearest in-network hospital 90 minutes away /s

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      I have been called a bootlicker for saying I think he probably killed Thompson. This is what actual bootlicking looks like

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        And killing Thompson is the whole reason people elevate him. If Luigi Mangione is actually just some random dude getting his McD’s after working on his fan-fiction manifesto and printing out copycat fake IDs for lols, then the story isn’t really about Luigi.

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    So poor people are donating to a guy that comes from extreme wealth and privilege?

    Make it make sense.

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    why does he need a defense fund? He’s going to be defended either way.

    if they convict him, which they probably will based on DNA and overwhelming evidence, and send him to jail. would he need to pay his lawyers back for their time?

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      A team of lawyers is going to be much better for him than a single public defender ever can do.

      As of right now we have no solid understanding of what evidence there is against him, because the cops could be saying anything they like.

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        He doesn’t have a public defender. His attorney is not a public defender.

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      Did he give a sperm sample or something at the crime seen? What DNA?

      And public defenders though they are as skilled as any attorney are very much overworked in many places. Private counsel can offer more attention to the details of a case and spend time researching potentially novel theories to defend their client.

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        They can sample DNA now if you’ve simply been in the area. They can sample it off the backpack he discarded in the park. They can sample it off the shell casings. They have his movement across many cameras.

        Remember, they only have to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt”.

        I think lemmy users need to get their head out of their asses with the “we really don’t know if he did it” thing. As much as anyone might think the crime was justified, the evidence is pretty solid. And with such an emotional newsworthy case, they’re not going to bring it to trial unless the evidence is beyond reproach.

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          They also said they have fingerprints from a water bottle. If that’s true, they can probably get DNA from that. If they actually need DNA.