At the Munich Security Conference, the “shared values” so frequently invoked by Europeans were called into question by US Vice President JD Vance. So do the US and Europe still speak the same language?

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    Dear World,

    Do what you need to do. We understand. We’ll hopefully see you in four years, maybe two.

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        I have learned how surprisingly many of my countrymen are damagingly ignorant, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, and just shitty enough to be trolls for lols regardless of the harm. It’s really really surprising how many people are. But they don’t all vote. What is even more surprising is how many decent people can’t be bothered to vote, even if they aren’t totally on board with the “better” side, to keep the objectively worse side at bay.

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          Because we jerked off about killing the Nazis for like a century and were fat lazy fucks in our ivory towers. Obviously we’re ignorant shitty morons we have no real experience and think we do.

          America’s reckoning was written on the walls and anyone with a brain has seen it just a matter of who would push that button and this president just might

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    Yeah I’d think Germany and allies have had enough experience with Nazis to not want to deal with the USA right now.

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      If you think Germany has learned their lesson from Nazism, I’m afraid I have to disappoint you. They are funding a genocide as we speak and obstructing justice by defying the European Court of Justice over the issue.

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      SOUTH KOREA? Didn’t they JUST have a constitutional crisis? Also France, Poland, Germany are all having a far right problem of their own right now.

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        Didn’t say they were perfect. But they’re at least taking action to staunch the bleeding. Here in America, we’re bleeding out on the floor

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        South Korea demonstrated they can get through a constitutional crisis, so in a sense this is a good indicator for their longevity.

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      As a Pole I see some similarities between Poland and South Korea but we also have similar weaknesses. Poland and SK have one of the lowest fertility rates in the world. Nothing wrong with that choice but I’d argue it’s not a choice. People just stopped trying due to being stuck in capitalist hellholes. We’re also very averse to immigration (and apparently nonchalant about our retirement). With that in mind, we’re in no position to lead anything. And that’s just one of many reasons why.

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    US commits horrible war crimes for decades:

    I sleep or even help them

    US starts trade war:

    real shit, time for me to grand stand

    Is this what they’re talking about “shared values”. Poor (especially brown) people are expendable, but economies aren’t.