https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/149cq9f/reddit_were_sorry/ (Full post)
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/149cq9f/comment/jo4gy94/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 (One comment)
“This is the most neckbeard thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Reddit is a business trying to make money, no shit they are going to get rid of third party apps eventually. Welcome to the real world. You are not being oppressed. This protest has zero effect on anything other than just inconveniencing users. If losing third party apps ruins your reddit experience (oh no) just find another app or website.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/149cq9f/comment/jo4fs7t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 (Another comment that got gold)
"This is absolutely stupid virtue signaling. It’s just a few power hungry mods pretending to add some meaning to their life so the other 99% can’t use the platform.
None of us regular people give a crap about the changes. Get over it."
Well that was a frustrating read. I don’t get it. Why are people so okay with reddit treating them like garbage?
Those are Gamers™.
They aren’t exactly people known for their critical thinking. They are however known for eating a whole bunch of shit from game publishers and devs, even going as far as thanking them for being able to buy said crap-sandwich.
I was going to say, “Gamers are being buttholes? No way.”
Those are most likely the same people who think games should have paid dlc on day one and paywalls in games. Best to never think about em until they are all crying that Reddit turns into 90% ads for onlyfans
At least here they’re being shit on like the weak-willed idiots they are.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1494sa8/gaming_is_now_public
Yeah, I understand people not caring about the situation if they didn’t use 3rd party apps before, but why do they defend Reddit anti-user actions, they’ll got nothing to win by siding with Reddit but they still shill, they think that if that doesn’t bother them, then it shouldn’t bother anyone. And they always got those same bullshit arguments that have already been addressed, they don’t care about the APIs being unfairly priced, they don’t care that many mods use those 3rd party tools to keep the subs as clean as possible, they even say that 3rd party apps are bad because they steal profit from Reddit, how upsetting.
they’ve been eating corporate boots for so long they don’t know how to stop
Frankly one of my favorite parts about the blackout - and opinions like this - is that Lemmy is going to end up being populated by people who have the capacity to think about others and form intelligent opinions. All of the people with this attitude will stay on reddit, which is what will ultimately kill it. I hope he stays.
Same with mastodon too. A lot of those on mastodon are so kind in their posts and empathy to others, meanwhile on twitter people get a lot of hate.
Yeah, I really like how here people tend to make longer comments and have nice discussions and stuff.
Yeh /s
This /s
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An unfortunate corollary of that is that we can only have a limited good time in the Fediverse. Eventually Reddit collapses and then they will all flock over and ruin it for us. (Or this’ll happen very gradually rather than suddenly.)
Reminder of how stupid and toxic some communities are
To redeem some of it, there seems to be good support for further blacking out r/gaming. Can’t fault the mods for coming back after 2 days like they said they would, but they should have thought that through a bit more from the start.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1494sa8/gaming_is_now_public/
Also remember there are “free market” apologists that think a business should be able to charge whatever they want, whenever they want. Charging so much for access that it drives servicew/apps to shutdown is not ok on any level.
I think it’s important to remember a lot of people participating in the blackout are still on a break from Reddit and aren’t commenting on these kinds of posts.
Anyway, we did indeed “just find another app or website”, so we’re good.Yup a lot of good has come of this.
Then how does that explain that post on r/gaming with funding 68k up votes?
That’s…a lot.
I don’t think anyone has a problem with a business trying to make money. The problem is the extortionate pricing and also not having things in place for mods or the communities with accessibility needs. And the timeframe in which the change is being implemented is ludicrous. And that isn’t even touching on the literal libel stating that Christian was blackmailing them.
I don’t have a problem with a business trying to make money, but lurkers need to realize that the site isn’t run by the company it’s run by the users who submit content, converse about it, and moderate it all for free.
All reddit does is keep the servers functional and take all the money, now they want a bigger chunk of money while not adding any more value.
Exactly!! The protest wasn’t solely about the API changes but people were also protesting /u/spez and his blatant lies to try and shift blame onto other people, which he just loves doing
This is exactly why I moved to Lemmy.
When the blackouts started, I decided to leave reddit permanency for Lemmy, a decision that I don’t regret. I checked back in briefly today and it seems like reddit is currently tearing itself apart. There’s definitely a lot more people vocally disagreeing with the blackout now.
There’s definitely a lot more
peoplebots vocally disagreeing with the blackout now.FTFY.
Of course, there are indeed plenty of real people, along with bots, disagreeing. Their daily Reddit routine has been disrupted, and they don’t like it. Of course, these folks aren’t generally affected (so far) by API changes, so they just want things to go back to what they were. They don’t understand what is coming, given the mod issues, etc.
I think the vast majority of people just want to browse without any disruptions, tbh. A lot of people are calling them bots but I think many of them are probably real people.
That’s good to hear! I haven’t looked. Hopefully word gets out about Lemmy and more people join us over here.
I checked back in briefly today and it seems like reddit is currently tearing itself apart.
How so?
I just saw a lot of threads with people arguing over -2 day blackout didn’t do shit -I don’t care, why should you -Where’s all the content, I want the content back -A blackout was really inconvenient
Yeah… sounds about right.
Thanks
It looks like a lot of
peopleidiots think the blackout is pointless and support Reddit’s choiceThese aren’t real people. These are Bots.
You can also find a few real specimens, a quick look through their history will show you the kind of subs they like and the kind of mindset they are in. Unfortunately, as much as I live video games, we suck so bad as a “community”
I love video games. It’s my main hobby and has been ever since I moved Link around in The legend of Zelda. Gamers are fucking idiots. It’s that community that has fully cemented the shittiest monetization possible in any entertainment medium and they DEFEND it. It’s no surprise that those from that circle would also defend reddits shit decisions.
As someone who enjoys games and loves to discuss them, it’s really disappointing what so many gamers are like. I like to call them “capital-G gamers” to differentiate them from those who simply enjoy games as a hobby.
Capital-G gamers are the ones who do stuff like send death threats to people who gave their favourite game a bad review. They’re the ones who will review bomb a game because the game includes the “political” gender (i.e., women). They’re also the ones who will ardently defend toxic practices like lootboxes. That one probably isn’t the same individuals as the other examples – the point being that capital-G gamers are a diverse group that can largely be summed up by one character trait: toxic.
Oh yeah. The reason AAA gaming is so shit right now, full of nickle and dimming everywhere, is because we have allowed it over the years.
It’s the same with the internet in general.
We allowed ourselves to get fucked, accepting every little “it’s a tiny change, it’s for the better” with nothing more than a tiny moan.We gave these companies our data, our money, and our time, and let them free to control the markets as they see fit.
Why shouldn’t they think we are gullible and easy to manipulate into defending their greed?It’s crazy when you think about it, they are asking hundreds of bucks for just a bunch of textures, it’s insane. Now mix it with casino mechanics and sexualisation and you have a bunch addict incels lining up for their next fix of fake waifus with the little money they have. It’s diabolical and brilliant.
I have some hope left for the community after discovering r/patientgamers. It’s encouraging to see that not everyone is buying into the overpriced AAA bug-infested pre-order crap these days.
Patient gamers is the best. One of the few subs I’m honestly gonna miss.
I’ve seen a patient gamers community somewhere on Lemmy
Can confirm it exists and seems somewhat active. https://lemmy.ml/c/patientgamers
I love r/patientgamers. Is there an active fediverse magazine somewhere? I searched and the largest one so far seems to be @patientgamers.
Or spez alts
I like to think it personally just him switching accounts and doing it.
While using apollo
they all have exactly the same tactics -
make some bullshit point that ignores the actual ideals behind the protest ignore any and all answers, just yelling that same bullshit point over and over again, keep on yelling to attempt to derail conversation get banned send modmail get muted
99.9% of their userbase weren’t even aware of third party apps, which frustrates me even more.
Yes, but remember the 1% rule. 90% of users lurk, 9% comment, 1% contribute. The power users upset at this change are at least in the 9%, if not the 1%, and enough of them go, the site grinds to a halt for the other 90%.
They‘ll fill it with some low quality circlejerking and bot reposts, that will seemingly keep it alive forever like a zombie.
People like to dig their head in the sand and pretend nothing is wrong. As long as their little lives aren’t disrupted, they go along with anything. I can’t say I entirely blame them, everyone just wants to come home from work/school and scroll on their stupid little app till they fall asleep and don’t have the energy to care. That’s literally what I do every night :/
But we have more power than we think. The first day of the blackout was great, people working together to say fuck you to capitalism, but going back to normal before any changes are made is not how protesting works.
100% agreed, the protest should’ve lasted indefinitely and having it be only 48 hours was such a stupid idea. But like you said the start of the protest was fantastic and it had the potential to really make an impression that people are serious about this.
Several very large subs and quite a few smaller ones have committed to remaining private until reddit backtracks or they are removed and opened by reddit admins. It’s not quite over, but I don’t think the average user cares enough, unfortunately.
The funny thing is, if reddit’s app wasn’t such a raging piece of garbage, I might have considered staying. But because it’s such a putrid waste of space I literally just cannot use the site any more.
When RIF goes, so does reddit for me. I primarily use the site on my phone, so a good app is vital. And if none exists, then, well… What to do?
Then again, if it wasn’t this, then I am sure they have removed old.reddit instead. And for the few times I am on my PC to look at reddit, I would not have been able to stomach it.
TLDR; the reddit app is genuinely an affront to all things sacred in the world.
I know it’s not great, but is it really THAT bad? Is it honestly worse than navigating Lemmy?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m DONE with Reddit. But is all of this really just because they don’t like the official app or is there something more?
The app is riddled with trackers and unnecessary analytics. I’ve heard people talking about their PiHoles creating multi GB log files a few days after installing the app because there is that much crap being filtered out.
For me it really is that bad, yes. I could stand to use it for a sum total of 30 seconds before I had to return to RIF. It felt like I was scrolling through Instagram or some other cancerous app like twitter.
Yes. Calling it a garbage heap is giving it too much credit. It’s unusable.
I hope they do stay there. I don’t want their drivel here. 🤷 If the main thing on their mind is being angry with the blackout, I can only imagine the content they would contribute to their communities anyway. 😵💫
Yeah, it’s crazy how many people would shill for a company because theyre slightly inconvenienced
“I can’t use Reddit for two days 😭”
Boo-fucking-hoo.
As a mod, I’ve gotten: hate mail, death threats, and Reddit cares notifications for posting that we would be restricted indefinitely.
Tbh it’s like the Twitter migration. Anybody who actually cares has left and it’s mostly dickheads that remains now.
Let’s enjoy it until the dickheads try to ruin this too
Predictable and moronic reactions.
- Some people just love to feel superior by mocking people who demand change
- Some people love to feel superior by pretending they knew that this would happen
- Some people love to feel superior by implying the other side are clueless kids, hippies, idiots who know nothing about the real world.
I think the whole reddit issue can be summed up very concisely. The users liked reddit because it was simple to use, free of ads and other distracting bullshit. That’s how they got big. But there’s no money in that. For some reason, investors still threw money at it. Now, they want their money back and reddit has 2000 employees. They need to find more and more ways to make money, which effectively kills the reason reddit got popular in the first place.
TL;DR don’t invest gazillions in a site simply because it has many users.
