The new ‘countryside sounds and smells law’ aims to give more protection to existing farms from newly arrived residents in the area.

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    Not trying to be weird or anything, but the smell of manure is one of the most important parts of the rural experience. But try explaining that to real estate parasites…

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      There was a rural town where I grew up that had roots in ranching. Everyone had horse corrals. It got big enough to incorporate into a city and started to grow quickly, but the new incoming residents started complaining about the horse manure smell.

      So the city council passed a law that says basically the manure was here before you were. Get over it.

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        It’s like those people moving into houses beside an airport or railway track and complaining about the noise.

        They probably got a house for 10% cheaper than elsewhere, why did they think it was such a good deal?

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      Did you know that Alfred Krupp, one of the guys responsible for the arms race that led to World War 1, absolutely loved the smell of horse manure? He loved it to a point where he built a house designed so he could always smell it. Wild stuff.

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          I vaguely remember something about him building a horse barn with a well furnished bedroom in what would normally be the hay loft, with a big hole in the floor for the smellz to waft through.

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      There are farms that remind me that it is spring by the smell of pig manure being spread on them. That is the week when you drive with your windows rolled up and the vent set to recycle. lol

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      The house prices in my area dropped so hard when my neighbor had to close his pig farm after the ammonia killed his lungs, I mean come on, can’t you keep doing it with your oxygen bottle?

      Thank god the cow farm on the other side is still working, without the screaming of them being tied their whole life in their own shit it would have gone all down the drain.

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      Dumping massive amounts of pig manure on already over fertilized fields (as very common) to cheaply get rid of it, is just pollution and should not be tolerated.

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      OMG!!! I have looked for that song for so long!! When I was a teen someone played that on a drama club bus and no one has ever believed me that the song exists!

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      Farms and other such places getting shut down by newly built housing developments.

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        Ahh the old Let me move to country side and get upset by local things so I change everything. Then later move again when it was just like where I started.

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          Don’t worry, people do that in cities too. People move into “trendy” neighborhoods, ruin them by campaigning to change them, and then move to the next trendy place.

          Self entitlement and stupidity have no bounds.

          People should be forbidden from complaining about things that predated them moving into an area.

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          Go to any popular national park where they cram development right up to the entrance. “What a lovely place, let’s build the fuck out of it.”

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    For those who don’t know: on the island of Maui- known for it’s lush green central valley of sugar cane waving in the breeze- a bunch of real esnake developers began complaining about their fake paradise getting covered in ash from the nighttime controlled burns by the sugar cane company (about 160 years old)…see, they had built right in the path of the wind.

    Long story short, they bribed the officials and won. Now Maui is a brown, unattractive desert with uncontrolled wildfires instead of controlled fires with irrigation sprinklers.

    Maui is going to die.

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      This is ludicrously incorrect. Everything is back to being green now, unless it was a desert zone to begin with.

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          Now Maui is a brown, unattractive desert with uncontrolled wildfires instead of controlled fires with irrigation sprinklers.

          Maui is going to die.

          If you ended that reply by commenting on the central valley alone, you might have a valid point, but you imply all of Maui is brown and going to die. That is incorrect. I am also on this island and can see it myself.

          edit: it also leaves out how most residents also wanted the cane burning and plowing to stop because it was a health problem, and how companies are slowly replanting that land with various crops that don’t cause the same type of issues, but are still in early stages.

          It also implies that there’s only one place affected by the ashfall and dust by being downwind, which is incorrect when people in Kihei, Wailuku and Paia can be affected (as experienced personally by myself in all three places), which are all in entirely different directions. The wind doesn’t always blow one way here.

          edit2: it’s also weird that this reply was to an article about roosters, but instead of commenting on that problem here, you went with something completely unrelated.

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              LOL, whatever dude, the loss of Lahaina should not be underrepresented, but it was not the only primary attraction. As someone who woke up with breathing issues from cane smoke while living in Kihei, Wailuku, and Paia, it was a problem for everyone within wind’s distance. Anyone, including yourself, who says otherwise is just fucking ignorant. And any such law that we may need to have in place is totally irrelevant to the cane fields and all the reasons that whole operation was stopped. The only people legitimately sad about it were cane field workers, which lasted until they got different jobs. While we live on the same rock, we clearly live in different realities.

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                  If you can’t breathe here then you should move.

                  Not a problem now, because the burning has stopped, dumbass.

                  You talk about how something was the biggest local news item, yet apparently totally ignored the years of complaints from locals and long-term residents suffering from various forms of smoke-induced asthma, emphysema, etc… which is why it’s ridiculous that people here are still giving older folks wearing masks a hard time, because many of them were wearing masks during burning seasons to help with the effects before the pandemic even happened.

                  Now we have even more dust and fires since there’s no irrigation system to control it.

                  LOL, no, that’s not true either. The main places we had uncontrolled fires didn’t have irrigation to begin with, with exception of the one downhill from Pukalani headed towards Maui Meadows (edit: actually, no, the area approaching Maui Meadows never had irrigation either), but please, do point out where the irrigation systems were in Kula, Olinda, and over on the west side so I can go see where that used to be. All the other fires we’ve had recently are the pedestrian variety probably caused by cigarettes being thrown out like usual, and they were all quickly brought under control. I get the alerts for emergencies and all clears just like everyone else here.

                  This nonsense may go over with people who don’t live here, but I do live here.

                  And don’t put “maui” in your screen name or emails; that’s carpetbagger shit right there.

                  No, you can get over it. If it’s a problem for you, that’s just too bad.

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    Can we ban my neighbor yelling back at the roosters? Like, buddy, I’m sorry that Disney tricked you into thinking it’s a sunrise thing. They do it all hours of the day and night as they please, and you yelling “SHUT THE FUCK UP IT’S NOT SUNRISE” isn’t helping anything.

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    The title without additional context sounds like an old man yelling in the country side that people call a cock

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    I remember when the rich people moved up from NY and NJ to Maine to live in all those quaint seaports then they complained about the smell from the docks and such because of the people who dared to work as lobstermen and fishermen instead of lawyers. Maine finally got sick of it and passed laws protecting the working seaports.

    Then the rich folks bought the pretty islands off of the coast and complained about the foghorns that are part of the protection system for boats. So now they don’t sound unless you have a device that triggers them. Part of the beauty of the seacoast, hearing the foghorns, is now gone because some millionaire needs to be coddled.

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    The eternal issue, people see these rural areas and go “Oh how quaint! Lets live here!”. Then they proceed to destroy the very things that attracted them. “Oh, these farms are smelly, and these animals are noisy. Can’t have that.” Lets move to the woods and cut all the trees down, then move to the desert and suck all the water up to force the landscape to look like a golf course.

    I remember a comedian said "Real estate developments are named after the thing they destroyed when they built it, like “Beaver Creek” or “Oak Woods”.