Lmao if you project any harder you’ll go blind.

No that’s part of the post. The tumblr user probably shared the tweet with the text copied under the image to make it more accessible to people that use screen readers.

I thought it was filled with water from a hurricane at first glance

As a woman I occasionally get praised for being naturally thin, but it’s almost always from a place of insecurity on the part of the person praising me so it still doesn’t exactly feel good.

dude, your argument about women denigrating men is based on women complaining about men denigrating women in exactly the same way. You stand up for what you see as the losing side, just as they do, but your argument is on the same grounds. You’re no better than they are. And that’s not me taking sides, that’s just what this argument boils down to.

Perhaps picking your battles and searching for the root of your beliefs, so you can express something meaningful without coming off like a raging sexist (their words, not mine), would make it a lot easier to broach this topic with your liberal community in a more rational manner. People are going to criticize you, that’s part of having beliefs, but presumably there are other things on which you agree with these people, meaning there must be a common foundation between your ideas which stands up to criticism and can be a means to a mutually beneficial end.

Stopped at a light at a freeway junction. Guy in front of me stops but gets impatient and goes just before it turns green.

We get stopped by the next light at the same junction. I am now next to the guy, both of us waiting to turn left to then merge onto the freeway across a fairly large intersection that accommodates all N-S normal traffic, traffic entering the E-W freeway from the N-S traffic, and traffic exiting the E-W freeway to join the N-S traffic.

He stops for only a few moments before deciding to go anyways (I think another direction had come to a stop and he assumed we’d be next), and as he goes through the intersection, the traffic exiting the freeway to go south gets the green light, and in slow motion with plenty of time to stop (cause they were just getting moving) the two front-runners both t-bone (f-bone?) the guy.

It was bizarre and completely avoidable on all fronts. Like a slow motion train wreck. Benefit of the doubt though, the exiting traffic probably just didn’t see him coming until he was right in front of them. I’m just glad that, whatever accident that guy was gonna get into that night, it happened before we got onto the freeway together.

Ban kids making up dumbshit challenges and attempting them?

You say circumcision, I say castration, ehhhh potayto potahto

Are we sure the horse is a horse?

I didn’t link a video lol and your own political circles revolving around intersectionalism does not mean that is all there is; I think there’s been a lot of manipulation in the media to make it center of mind because it gets clicks and serves to distract; but if you want that badly to be conservative and make judgement calls on people individually that extend to their entire sex instead of holding more nuanced opinions about issues that can be solved systemically then go for it, I can’t stop you.

Identity politics coding is everywhere, and on some level I need to “pick a side”.

No, you don’t. That’s what I’ve been telling you. Who cares if it’s niche. It’s better than giving up on all your other values and saying you’re conservative or “more” conservative than liberal just so you can bicker about which sex is more oppressed than the other. Maybe you’ll be the person that makes someone else see the light if you do the work to better contextualize what you’re trying to say, and then your ideology is that slight amount less niche.

Right, and what I’m saying is that disagreeing with liberals does not make you more conservative than them. You can be further left than liberals, or even aligned with them, and choose not partake in identity politics at all or only do so from a broader context. For example, you may instead advocate to fix the things that those identity politics and division are often a symptom of.

Per delduthling - It’s very possible to be a fully fledged socialist demanding structural economic change who also recognizes that oppression on the basis of race, gender, and sexuality are intertwined with capitalist power structures. The project of “woke capitalism” can never make good on its promises of liberation.

I found this to be a pretty thoughtful article on the topic, Meet the Anti-Woke Left

But I relent. Perhaps you mean more conservative on a personal or sexual level that you wouldn’t try to enforce on others. A level entirely separate from your politics. That kind of self determination would still be an ideal of the left though imo; you have the right to choose your own lifestyle as long as it doesn’t cause harm to others.

Look, I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with you. I recognize that I do not have all the answers and I think it’s both damaging and a waste of time to bicker about who or what is and isn’t “sexist”.

All I’m saying is that liberalism and the left are not the same thing or even really all that amenable to each other, and identity politics are largely a distraction from more important issues. There’s a whole Wikipedia article that sums up various criticisms of it from a few different perspectives.

You are right, liberals are wrong about a lot of things and easily fall for ploys which only serve to divide us from each other. Choosing not to associate with liberals or to have more nuanced opinions in the face of their bickering does not mean that you have to be conservative or that conservatism is the only other thing left on the table. It’s a false dichotomy.

You know you can be on the left without falling into the trap of identity politics. Many (most) of us that consider ourselves leftists also find liberals annoying, and liberalism is not the highest ideal of the left as common notions in the US would have you believe.

Wow I did not interpret the term “liberal” at all in the same way that you have. Liberalism as an ideology is centrist at best, right of center at worst if you consider the overton window in developed nations other than the US.

Wow you actually have zero reading comprehension

Oh yeah, we’re getting all the classics now. “all criticism of Democrats is Russian propaganda, war is peace, and Democrats can’t be blamed for actively funding genocide and letting the leader of a foreign nation very publicly walk all over them in an election year” and you still think you came up with all of that yourself. How quaint.

I’ll be sure to let you know when I start taking advice from lemmy on my personal relationships.

He was using “everyone just wants to be right” as an excuse to shut down. His very weak rationalizations to not take a stance yet reject any advocacy for the humanity of palestinians were very transparent and I found it both disgusting and insulting. He would claim he didn’t know enough, to not know “what does Hamas even want”, but told me he’d have to see my sources on everything I tried to explain to him. Especially when I told him about Israel’s lies of sexual violence that occurred October 7th (which was his main talking point, “you don’t rape people”. Well, there’s not a shred of evidence that they did) and then threatened to mute our chat for sending these sources without reading or viewing them because they were “too long” or cited a tweet at some point, and I assume he did mute me but idk cause that’s where things ended.

I understand that antisemitism is rising. That is happening everywhere. You also have the AFD on the rise (which he denied). That can hardly be blamed on Palestinian activists. If anything, Israel is to blame for manufacturing the situation. Fascists co-opting the movement because they want to see both sides destroy each other is hardly any reason to continue funding Israel as they wage a genocidal war, nor is it one to shut down any democratic process on the matter. They are poisoning the discourse and you are playing right into it.

And no, I refuse to accept your framing that anything Iran does is automatically bad, antisemitic, or out of proportion to the situation. Israel is no more righteous in this than they are and is actively provoking a regional conflict with weapons that we are providing.

Lol there it is, off comes the mask. Dishonestly suggesting that criticizing Israel’s actions is antisemitism just because the democrats made a big show about facilitating negotiations and writing strongly worded letters and sending care packages while Netanyahu openly defies and sabotages the negotiations and continues bombing innocent civilians without recourse.

You can lead a horse to fresh water but you can’t make them drink. This conversation is over. You don’t give a fuck about Palestine.

Read my full reply and I promise it will make sense.

Policy/actions and talking points are two different things. The democrat’s walk does not match their talk. You’re falling for talking points and feel-good finger wagging while the policy and action is effectively the same.

Netanyahu is already running the show, we’re already helping him carry this out. It doesn’t make a difference if the guy signing the checks has an ® or (D) next to their name and feigns pride or concern in doing so, if either way there are zero consequences for escalating the situation to a full multi-front war.

Thanks for this. I have a German friend that can’t talk about this without whining about how it’s upsetting and oh the jewish people in Germany are reminded of the holocaust and they’re afraid now and Hamas aren’t perfect victims and nobody is allowed to protest because protests are antisemitic so we just have to let Israel flatten Palestine and continue their apartheid with our tax dollars. And oh man I don’t really know anything about it but I still disagree with you and my perfect english is suddenly not good enough to explain my non position because everyone just wants to be right.

I stopped talking to that German friend, but I’d like to know how to get past that brick wall if we ever do talk again.