This exposes how much popular misinformation there is about dietary science.
The fix to being skinny is never as simple as “eat more” in the same way the fix to being overweight is never as simple as “don’t eat.”
There are a whole bunch of psychological, physiological, and downright safety concerns that go into effectively dieting (yes if you just start starving yourself you can die). And on top of that, research has repeatedly demonstrated that fat/skinny shaming just makes people worse off than they were.
I encourage folks to have the openmindedness to understand that if things were really this easy, no one would have weight concerns.
“Boils down” in the same way that a days long cross country road trip boils down to putting lots of gas in your car.
Yes, fuel technically is the main physical component involved in moving mass across distance, but there are myriad other hurdles and points of failure involved such as driver health, sleep, food and navigation.
I think it boils down in a much more concrete sense than that since how many calories you get vs how many you spend is the absolute most important factor and the one thing to make sure you’re doing correctly, with everything else being stuff supporting that goal.
If you are underweight and need to gain weight, you need to eat more. How you can achieve that, that’s when you can start to get more specific. But still, ya gotta eat more.
You are completely correct. As long as you consume less/more calories than you spend, you will lose/gain weight. How to achieve that is where it can get complicated but I don’t think anyone can dispute the fact.
Do you have a source on starving yourself/fasting can cause you to die? I know that’s true for cats but never heard of it in humans, our bodies are designed to burn our fat reserves to create energy.
One, you can run out of fat reserves. You can also run low on critical minerals or electrolytes like magnesium or potassium and have a heart attack. Also, while fat may replace a carbohydrate source, you need protein intake as well. It’s obviously happened to people in famines.
Yes but they are talking about weight loss, this isn’t famine or an emergency. In normal situations not eating is perfectly fine. I often won’t eat for a day if I have too much going on.
For 382 days ending on 30 June 1966, he consumed only vitamins, electrolytes, an unspecified amount of yeast (a source of all essential amino acids) and zero-calorie beverages such as tea, coffee, and sparkling water, although he occasionally consumed small amounts of milk and/or sugar with the beverages, especially during the final weeks of the fast.
VERY important to note that he did this while in close communication with a doctor, consuming vitamins and other essential nutrients. No one should try to do this alone.
Not a doctor nor dietitian—Protein-Energy Undernutrition is what can bring this about. More or less it’s a deficiency of macronutrients, even though there is technically enough energy in the form of fat, which leads to potentially life threatening conditions.
Fasting and starving yourself aren’t the same. Starving is either being out of food without fat reserves or eating too little each day so your body never switches over to burning fat stores. Fasting is overall pretty safe and becoming better studied recently.
I’ve been fasting every other day since October and used it to lose 50 LBS. I’ve felt pretty great the whole time and eat high protein/take a multivitamin on eating days to make sure I don’t run into any issues. Occasionally I drink electrolytes on fasting days if I’m being active. Many also do time restricted eating without issues
Have they released any results from that trial? I read about it being implemented but didn’t see any follow up.
I think ultimately the government would need to allow the mass prescription of ozempic or something to tackle the obesity crisis here. For many overweight people they are fighting against their environment with genes which would have served them better in an era before an unlimited food supply was guaranteed.
The weight loss stuff is already showing signs of serious side effects. Just yesterday i read an article on here about it, iirc it causes some sort of chronic digestive condition in a significant portion of users that cannot be reversed even if they stop using the substance. Sorry I dont have the link right now.
This exposes how much popular misinformation there is about dietary science.
The fix to being skinny is never as simple as “eat more” in the same way the fix to being overweight is never as simple as “don’t eat.”
There are a whole bunch of psychological, physiological, and downright safety concerns that go into effectively dieting (yes if you just start starving yourself you can die). And on top of that, research has repeatedly demonstrated that fat/skinny shaming just makes people worse off than they were.
I encourage folks to have the openmindedness to understand that if things were really this easy, no one would have weight concerns.
It does boil down to eating more or less. It just might not be as easy to learn to do that
“Boils down” in the same way that a days long cross country road trip boils down to putting lots of gas in your car.
Yes, fuel technically is the main physical component involved in moving mass across distance, but there are myriad other hurdles and points of failure involved such as driver health, sleep, food and navigation.
I think it boils down in a much more concrete sense than that since how many calories you get vs how many you spend is the absolute most important factor and the one thing to make sure you’re doing correctly, with everything else being stuff supporting that goal.
If you are underweight and need to gain weight, you need to eat more. How you can achieve that, that’s when you can start to get more specific. But still, ya gotta eat more.
You are completely correct. As long as you consume less/more calories than you spend, you will lose/gain weight. How to achieve that is where it can get complicated but I don’t think anyone can dispute the fact.
You are both correct. There’s this strange and false assumption that people struggling with weight somehow don’t know this though.
They are incredibly aware. When people ask for advice, comments like OOP’s “eat more” are preaching to the choir.
It’s as aggravating and obvious as “I need advice for a long drive?”—“well make sure you put gas in the car.” Like, duh.
Not only that, but how to gain/lose it in a healthy way.
A ‘correct’ answer to help lose weight is to try meth. It is not recommended to try meth.
Input - output = delta weight
Its a pretty simple formula and ultimately thats all it is. The whole mental thing on top of that is just monkey brain go brrrr
if you ignore all the things that make it wickedly difficult it’s actually pretty simple!
Do you have a source on starving yourself/fasting can cause you to die? I know that’s true for cats but never heard of it in humans, our bodies are designed to burn our fat reserves to create energy.
One, you can run out of fat reserves. You can also run low on critical minerals or electrolytes like magnesium or potassium and have a heart attack. Also, while fat may replace a carbohydrate source, you need protein intake as well. It’s obviously happened to people in famines.
Yes but they are talking about weight loss, this isn’t famine or an emergency. In normal situations not eating is perfectly fine. I often won’t eat for a day if I have too much going on.
They probably meant consistently not getting enough food for prolonged periods of time
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This guy fasted for a year but consumed some essentials.
I think if you consume nothing but water you will die at some point.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri's_fast
For 382 days ending on 30 June 1966, he consumed only vitamins, electrolytes, an unspecified amount of yeast (a source of all essential amino acids) and zero-calorie beverages such as tea, coffee, and sparkling water, although he occasionally consumed small amounts of milk and/or sugar with the beverages, especially during the final weeks of the fast.
VERY important to note that he did this while in close communication with a doctor, consuming vitamins and other essential nutrients. No one should try to do this alone.
Lmao, who downvoted this
there’s a good chunk of hateful losers on the internet who just like to blame weight struggles on people’s “failure mindset.”
not only are they assholes ignorant of basic medicine they are also fucking dangerous because they essentially encourage eating disorders.
Not a doctor nor dietitian—Protein-Energy Undernutrition is what can bring this about. More or less it’s a deficiency of macronutrients, even though there is technically enough energy in the form of fat, which leads to potentially life threatening conditions.
Fasting and starving yourself aren’t the same. Starving is either being out of food without fat reserves or eating too little each day so your body never switches over to burning fat stores. Fasting is overall pretty safe and becoming better studied recently.
I’ve been fasting every other day since October and used it to lose 50 LBS. I’ve felt pretty great the whole time and eat high protein/take a multivitamin on eating days to make sure I don’t run into any issues. Occasionally I drink electrolytes on fasting days if I’m being active. Many also do time restricted eating without issues
The British government is texting fat blokes they should avoid kebabs.
It’s working.
Have they released any results from that trial? I read about it being implemented but didn’t see any follow up.
I think ultimately the government would need to allow the mass prescription of ozempic or something to tackle the obesity crisis here. For many overweight people they are fighting against their environment with genes which would have served them better in an era before an unlimited food supply was guaranteed.
The weight loss stuff is already showing signs of serious side effects. Just yesterday i read an article on here about it, iirc it causes some sort of chronic digestive condition in a significant portion of users that cannot be reversed even if they stop using the substance. Sorry I dont have the link right now.