my issues in the past 2 weeks consist of proton(just in general has a memory leak that eventually frame drops but I expect it’s just a proton thing) , bluetooth(fixed for now), multi-monitor/desktop has screens randomly shutdown on sleep and screen timeout requiring a force enable/disable of the monitor and audio sharing across applications just generally doesn’t like working. I’m expecting it’s an issue with pulse audio or something but it’s still annoying.
I have given up getting proper channel control on my headset, it detects both channels but the other channel won’t let me edit volume, I’ve had to manually make an audio profile in order to get it to even detect the headset in the first place.
I can’t use Wayland period, unless I manually start the window manager and even when it does work it artifacts all over the place and is generally unenjoyable due to it. I’ve fallen back to X11 which works tremendously better but will occasionally just decide to not load a desktop environment.
Most of these are easy workarounds to get working again, but the point is you shouldn’t have to do workaround over workaround in order to get a system to operate for you.
Like I said it’s still tremendously better than how it was when I used it 10 years ago but it’s things like that that make it so it’s really hard to recommend taking the plunge for your everyday user
I’ve been running Debian for… Longer than I care to think about, and other distributions before that. And Debian is still the top in stability, what it doesn’t do well - and I feel like may be what’s happening here - is running the latest and greatest. Or even running the fairly recent. Or even the somewhat recent…
Anyway, what I use Debian for is a (very) stable desktop and most of my servers. For anything more cutting (not even bleeding) edge, a different distribution may serve you better. If I had to guess, Nvidia GPU? If so, I’m fairly certain Mint has recently updated to support the latest and it was working well for some folks. I have all AMD GPUs (except for a box running windows + Nvidia for some work stuff).
Yeah I know that Debian isn’t really meant for the latest and the greatest and I agree I think it is what I’m running into, it’s just sadly I tried Linux Mint prior because that’s the system I had originally started with 15 years ago and I loved it, but I had an even worse time getting that system running then I did getting debian running and one of my friends was hard pressing me to use plasma anyway and there wasn’t a good way of getting plasma to work on mint, so I decided to go with it.
I may end up dropping Debian I’m just at that point where I put so much effort into getting the system to run again and most everything has been fixed, but I’m also at that State where every time I think I’ve gotten to a point where I’ve gotten things fixed, something else weird that I would have never expected to be a problem pops up. I do need to just let the system go, just sucks to waste all that effort
As for the specs yeah it is NVIDIA I got burned by AMD pretty hard after years of loving AMD, I still have an AMD CPU(R 5 5600x) as I’m in love with their processor division, but I’m running an Nvidia GPU(4070) now cuz AMD’s GPU division needs a lot of polish. Love the raw output but stability under high load was just not there. I moved my AMD GPU to the rack where GPU demand is less and it’s not crashing all the time now.
If I ever take the rack apart again I may put the card back in to see how it works with the new system but overall I’m happy with the state of the system it’s just annoying at times
Thank you, hope everything runs stable for you as well!
Similar, but the reverse for me (except a machine for work with dual adas). Though I had a spattering of AMD during that time, those always worked for me. Still have a 270x doing it’s duty!
Random thought, have you tried LMDE? It’s the Debian edition of Mint, I thought it was cleaner (though to be fair, I didn’t use it much, it was an install for someone else).
I’m curious what you’re running into with Debian that would make you say it’s not reliable…
I have Debian installs that have been continuously running for years (sans long power outages and such).
my issues in the past 2 weeks consist of proton(just in general has a memory leak that eventually frame drops but I expect it’s just a proton thing) , bluetooth(fixed for now), multi-monitor/desktop has screens randomly shutdown on sleep and screen timeout requiring a force enable/disable of the monitor and audio sharing across applications just generally doesn’t like working. I’m expecting it’s an issue with pulse audio or something but it’s still annoying.
I have given up getting proper channel control on my headset, it detects both channels but the other channel won’t let me edit volume, I’ve had to manually make an audio profile in order to get it to even detect the headset in the first place.
I can’t use Wayland period, unless I manually start the window manager and even when it does work it artifacts all over the place and is generally unenjoyable due to it. I’ve fallen back to X11 which works tremendously better but will occasionally just decide to not load a desktop environment.
Most of these are easy workarounds to get working again, but the point is you shouldn’t have to do workaround over workaround in order to get a system to operate for you.
Like I said it’s still tremendously better than how it was when I used it 10 years ago but it’s things like that that make it so it’s really hard to recommend taking the plunge for your everyday user
What’s the hardware youve got going on?
I’ve been running Debian for… Longer than I care to think about, and other distributions before that. And Debian is still the top in stability, what it doesn’t do well - and I feel like may be what’s happening here - is running the latest and greatest. Or even running the fairly recent. Or even the somewhat recent…
Anyway, what I use Debian for is a (very) stable desktop and most of my servers. For anything more cutting (not even bleeding) edge, a different distribution may serve you better. If I had to guess, Nvidia GPU? If so, I’m fairly certain Mint has recently updated to support the latest and it was working well for some folks. I have all AMD GPUs (except for a box running windows + Nvidia for some work stuff).
In any case, good luck!
Yeah I know that Debian isn’t really meant for the latest and the greatest and I agree I think it is what I’m running into, it’s just sadly I tried Linux Mint prior because that’s the system I had originally started with 15 years ago and I loved it, but I had an even worse time getting that system running then I did getting debian running and one of my friends was hard pressing me to use plasma anyway and there wasn’t a good way of getting plasma to work on mint, so I decided to go with it.
I may end up dropping Debian I’m just at that point where I put so much effort into getting the system to run again and most everything has been fixed, but I’m also at that State where every time I think I’ve gotten to a point where I’ve gotten things fixed, something else weird that I would have never expected to be a problem pops up. I do need to just let the system go, just sucks to waste all that effort
As for the specs yeah it is NVIDIA I got burned by AMD pretty hard after years of loving AMD, I still have an AMD CPU(R 5 5600x) as I’m in love with their processor division, but I’m running an Nvidia GPU(4070) now cuz AMD’s GPU division needs a lot of polish. Love the raw output but stability under high load was just not there. I moved my AMD GPU to the rack where GPU demand is less and it’s not crashing all the time now.
If I ever take the rack apart again I may put the card back in to see how it works with the new system but overall I’m happy with the state of the system it’s just annoying at times
Thank you, hope everything runs stable for you as well!
Similar, but the reverse for me (except a machine for work with dual adas). Though I had a spattering of AMD during that time, those always worked for me. Still have a 270x doing it’s duty!
Random thought, have you tried LMDE? It’s the Debian edition of Mint, I thought it was cleaner (though to be fair, I didn’t use it much, it was an install for someone else).