• @AnAmericanPotato
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    52 months ago

    4 is sheer madness. 1 is common sense. 2 is just the cooler version of 1.

    I’ve always found hardcoded style to be an obnoxious and counterproductive paradigm. It’s the text editor’s job to handle line wrapping, and there’s no reason a coding editor shouldn’t be able to format code intelligently. I hate hard line breaks that do not have meaning. Not everybody is using the same size windows! It’s 2024! We have the technology!

    • @[email protected]
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      72 months ago

      The example for 2 isn’t good. Seemingly superfluous commas, brackets, and escaped newlines can be useful and even important for clean maintenance.

      The solution to the whitespace gripe is strictly enforced formatting standards with a git hook running a manually invokable script.

      • @FizzyOrange
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        12 months ago

        Yeah but sometimes you do get meaningless changes that aren’t just whitespace even with auto formatters. For example if you change the indentation on some code and that causes it to wrap an expression.

          • @FizzyOrange
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            12 months ago

            git diff -w only ignores whitespace within a line (e.g. changing indentation). It doesn’t ignore adding or removing new lines.

            But even if it did, wrapping a function call or a long string can introduce extra commas or quotes.

      • @AnAmericanPotato
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        2 months ago

        The solution to the whitespace gripe is strictly enforced formatting standards with a git hook running a manually invokable script.

        Throwing a linter into the pipeline just hardcodes the formatting at that point in the pipeline. That doesn’t really solve the issue, which is that style is not a one-size-fits-all concept, and displaying text appropriately is really the job of a text editor. To quote PEP 8, “default wrapping in most tools disrupts the visual structure of the code”. In other words, “most tools” suck at displaying code, because they are not language-aware. That’s the real problem. Hardcoding style is a workaround, not a solution.

        That said, I wouldn’t consider intelligent editors to be a replacement for formatting standards, either. Ideally my text editor would display my Python code the way I like it, and then save to disk in accordance to PEP 8.