President Joe Biden is dropping out of the 2024 race following a disastrous debate with Republican Donald Trump, throwing the Democratic Party into chaos just months before the election.
Oh, stop. We’re you one of the ones also saying him not dropping out handed it to Trump? Or that the assassination attempt picture handed it to Trump?
Nothing has handed it to anyone. There are more liberal voters than conservative, including in battleground states. We just have to decide to rally around Harris and stop with the quibbling about one issue or another.
No I wasn’t. I’m pretty well on record saying I’m worried that Kamala can’t win, and if agitators are able to convince black voters that we are a bunch of racist hypocrites for not running her then no one else can win either. That’s my stance and I’ll be fucking ecstatic to be proven wrong.
Defeatism gets us nowhere. We live in unusual times - they are what we make of them. And I say we make this a Dem fucking victory so we don’t have to live (or die) under a fascist fucking regime.
I’m going to do everything I can. I’m all in on whoever the candidate is. But right now at this moment, I’m feeling really fucking defeated. But I would be so happy to be wrong.
I mean, I guess it’s your turn. Those of us who wanted Biden to step down have been feeling really fucking defeated for months, now.
The truth is, none of us know how it’s going to go in November. We each had visions of what we thought the best path to victory would be, and we each hoped that the party would follow our vision. I think that Biden’s poor debate performance, poor health, obvious cognitive decline, and the slew of poor polls he’s been getting mean that replacing him (even at this late hour) is the right way to go. I suppose we’ll have to keep our fingers crossed and hope.
I just want Trump not to win. I am really scared for my kids. I’m a middle aged white guy and I’ll be fine if Trump wins, but I have 4 daughters and a gay son and they need Trump not to win.
Hey, man, I feel you. I think that a Trump victory would mean the end of American democracy, in addition to causing the loss of liberty and life for a significant number of Americans. It’s a manichaean struggle, so, I really hope we didn’t fuck it up. That being said, I DO think that this move is the best chance we have to seize victory in November.
We can cheerlead Harris until the cows come home, but it’s the people who were caught by surprise by this announcement that need to be reached. Bernie Sanders would’ve been President in 2016 if internet enthusiasm meant a damn. The politically disconnected are the people I’m most concerned about.
But yes this might make the base more enthusiastic and help turnout. I hope that’s enough.
Today, since there’s an influx of comments essentially proclaiming “it’s Joever, Trump Wins” or “Harris won’t be able to win in November”, I’ve had to resort to checking people’s comments from a week before if they were saying Biden had a solid chance or if “everyone and anyone would be a bad choice so don’t bother”.
You were one that genuinely believed in Biden unlike some of the anti-US trolls. I’m sorry, you don’t deserve the downvotes, I know your disappointment is legitimate. (You can see the user cabron who replied to you is one example of the other type I’m talking about). Don’t give up, there is still hope yet.
I appreciate you taking the effort. And with a little time to reflect I’m not as disheartened as I was earlier. I think it’s an uphill fight, but it was with Biden, too.
No, I’ve talked to people who aren’t MAGA, but weren’t fans of Biden. If Harris can mop the floor with Trump in a debate (because he only looked strong because Joe was SO bad) she’d win over a lot of people.
I’ve been looking past Biden to what the race would look like without him, and I have very serious concerns articulated well before this announcement. That being said, let’s get behind Harris and see what we can do.
It’s already fucked up. Biden dropping out just handed the whole fucking thing to Trump.
Edit: Alright, alright. This was a gut punch and I really felt Biden was our best shot. That said, this could be an opportunity and I’m here for it.
Oh, stop. We’re you one of the ones also saying him not dropping out handed it to Trump? Or that the assassination attempt picture handed it to Trump?
Nothing has handed it to anyone. There are more liberal voters than conservative, including in battleground states. We just have to decide to rally around Harris and stop with the quibbling about one issue or another.
No I wasn’t. I’m pretty well on record saying I’m worried that Kamala can’t win, and if agitators are able to convince black voters that we are a bunch of racist hypocrites for not running her then no one else can win either. That’s my stance and I’ll be fucking ecstatic to be proven wrong.
Defeatism gets us nowhere. We live in unusual times - they are what we make of them. And I say we make this a Dem fucking victory so we don’t have to live (or die) under a fascist fucking regime.
I’m going to do everything I can. I’m all in on whoever the candidate is. But right now at this moment, I’m feeling really fucking defeated. But I would be so happy to be wrong.
I mean, I guess it’s your turn. Those of us who wanted Biden to step down have been feeling really fucking defeated for months, now.
The truth is, none of us know how it’s going to go in November. We each had visions of what we thought the best path to victory would be, and we each hoped that the party would follow our vision. I think that Biden’s poor debate performance, poor health, obvious cognitive decline, and the slew of poor polls he’s been getting mean that replacing him (even at this late hour) is the right way to go. I suppose we’ll have to keep our fingers crossed and hope.
I just want Trump not to win. I am really scared for my kids. I’m a middle aged white guy and I’ll be fine if Trump wins, but I have 4 daughters and a gay son and they need Trump not to win.
Hey, man, I feel you. I think that a Trump victory would mean the end of American democracy, in addition to causing the loss of liberty and life for a significant number of Americans. It’s a manichaean struggle, so, I really hope we didn’t fuck it up. That being said, I DO think that this move is the best chance we have to seize victory in November.
I am the complete opposite, this will galvanise people.
We can cheerlead Harris until the cows come home, but it’s the people who were caught by surprise by this announcement that need to be reached. Bernie Sanders would’ve been President in 2016 if internet enthusiasm meant a damn. The politically disconnected are the people I’m most concerned about.
But yes this might make the base more enthusiastic and help turnout. I hope that’s enough.
This is such an extraordinary circumstance that no one can predict what will happen. Don’t give up.
It’s not just that, it’s a chance at a fresh start to excite people about a new direction for this country.
Nah this is just typical American behavior. After exhausting all the wrong options we are finally seeing Biden do the right thing.
Today, since there’s an influx of comments essentially proclaiming “it’s Joever, Trump Wins” or “Harris won’t be able to win in November”, I’ve had to resort to checking people’s comments from a week before if they were saying Biden had a solid chance or if “everyone and anyone would be a bad choice so don’t bother”.
You were one that genuinely believed in Biden unlike some of the anti-US trolls. I’m sorry, you don’t deserve the downvotes, I know your disappointment is legitimate. (You can see the user cabron who replied to you is one example of the other type I’m talking about). Don’t give up, there is still hope yet.
I appreciate you taking the effort. And with a little time to reflect I’m not as disheartened as I was earlier. I think it’s an uphill fight, but it was with Biden, too.
I’m with you. I’ve come to terms with it. Let’s hope whoever it is wins.
No, I’ve talked to people who aren’t MAGA, but weren’t fans of Biden. If Harris can mop the floor with Trump in a debate (because he only looked strong because Joe was SO bad) she’d win over a lot of people.
I hope. I so fucking hope.
Nope.
“Biden staying is handing it to Trump!” “Biden leaving it’s handing it to Trump!”
Fuck off back to Russia, you’re just trying to persuade Democrats not to vote because Trump winning is what you want.
Hey, sincerely, fuck off. It would take you all of two seconds to see who I am if you really cared.
It would take burying your head in the sand for the past month to not realise Biden stood no chance.
I’ve been looking past Biden to what the race would look like without him, and I have very serious concerns articulated well before this announcement. That being said, let’s get behind Harris and see what we can do.
Yeah, that’s exactly how long it took to see it with your previous comment.
It was trump’s win ever since the debate. Pull your head out of the sand.