• snooggums@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    Why would this be any different than the time he colluded with Russia on live TV, had a phone call recorded asking to change election results, intentionally retained national security documents after leaving office, rallying the mob that tried to stop the election results, or any of the other things we already have on record?

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      Fun tangential fact: Trump’s collusion was found to be legally okay per the Mueller report because they had no evidence they directly coordinated with each other. This is very similar to how SuperPACS cannot directly coordinate with election campaigns but simply engage in obvious call-and-response as Trump did with Russia. Corrupt as fuck.

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        That is about as unfun a fact as I can think of.

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          Oh I dunno, Chicago has had a active serial rapist and murderer for 20 years with more than 50 victims and more than 50 deaths that no one really talks about.

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            3 months ago

            Look, if you want to get people to talk about your crimes you need to do a better job of taunting the police. Whining about it on Lemmy isn’t going to make it happen.

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              That’s exactly how it happens. Literally the only places I’ve seen reporting on it is social media.

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                They were joking about you being a serial killer in Chicago and this being how you admit it.

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                  I’m well aware, I just don’t think it’s particularly funny to joke about when there’s a pretty high likelihood that someone is being chained raped and tortured before dying in an abandoned building while the Chicago police actively avoid investigation that would reveal the pattern.

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                    while the Chicago police actively avoid investigation that would reveal the pattern

                    Well, maybe that’s the pattern.

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            Meh, we had that in Canada and the guy sold the meat all over for decades. the victims were indigenous prostitutes, so no fucks were given for a long, loooong time.

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        I thought there was lots of evidence but mueller basically said it wasn’t his place to prosecute and I’m going to leave it up to congress to do their job and prosecute.

        They did not do their job.

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          Yep it was a cop-out. I will post my copy-pasta on this for anyone’s interest, but basically.

          In the worst case, it was laziness and passing the buck by Mueller; in the best case it was him trying to dodge Barr from closing the case in the DOJ. Either way the recommended charges brought forward had nothing to do with conspiracy or coordination, but rather perjury and obstruction.

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        Different collusion. And they didn’t say it was okay - just that they didn’t have any evidence that Trump himself had been involved.

        Then the report went on to say as clearly as the justice department is allowed to say that Trump absolutely engaged in obstruction of justice. They couldn’t indict a sitting President, and you can’t make a public accusation against someone you aren’t going to indict.

        Mueller said that if Trump were innocent of obstruction, he’d say he was, but that he would not say that. He laid out specific criteria for what constitutes obstruction, cited many specific occasions in which he met all those criteria, testified before Congress that if he weren’t the sitting President he would have brought charges against him, and said directly that it was Congress’s duty to impeach him.

        But somehow the GOP convinced everyone that the Mueller report was an exonneration.