• Kalkaline
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    1062 months ago

    Wouldn’t it be incredible if this is what finally took him down? You just know he’s going to make some false statements to law enforcement.

    • @[email protected]
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      1712 months ago

      Why would this be any different than the time he colluded with Russia on live TV, had a phone call recorded asking to change election results, intentionally retained national security documents after leaving office, rallying the mob that tried to stop the election results, or any of the other things we already have on record?

      • @[email protected]
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        2 months ago

        Fun tangential fact: Trump’s collusion was found to be legally okay per the Mueller report because they had no evidence they directly coordinated with each other. This is very similar to how SuperPACS cannot directly coordinate with election campaigns but simply engage in obvious call-and-response as Trump did with Russia. Corrupt as fuck.

        • @MagicShel
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          502 months ago

          That is about as unfun a fact as I can think of.

          • @[email protected]
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            192 months ago

            Oh I dunno, Chicago has had a active serial rapist and murderer for 20 years with more than 50 victims and more than 50 deaths that no one really talks about.

            • @[email protected]
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              372 months ago

              Look, if you want to get people to talk about your crimes you need to do a better job of taunting the police. Whining about it on Lemmy isn’t going to make it happen.

              • @[email protected]
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                22 months ago

                That’s exactly how it happens. Literally the only places I’ve seen reporting on it is social media.

                • Pelicanen
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                  92 months ago

                  They were joking about you being a serial killer in Chicago and this being how you admit it.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 months ago

              Meh, we had that in Canada and the guy sold the meat all over for decades. the victims were indigenous prostitutes, so no fucks were given for a long, loooong time.

        • @[email protected]
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          232 months ago

          I thought there was lots of evidence but mueller basically said it wasn’t his place to prosecute and I’m going to leave it up to congress to do their job and prosecute.

          They did not do their job.

          • @[email protected]
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            152 months ago

            Yep it was a cop-out. I will post my copy-pasta on this for anyone’s interest, but basically.

            In the worst case, it was laziness and passing the buck by Mueller; in the best case it was him trying to dodge Barr from closing the case in the DOJ. Either way the recommended charges brought forward had nothing to do with conspiracy or coordination, but rather perjury and obstruction.

          • Baron Von J
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            22 months ago

            Rosenstein instructed Mueller not to investigate Trump’s financial dealings in Russia.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 months ago

          Different collusion. And they didn’t say it was okay - just that they didn’t have any evidence that Trump himself had been involved.

          Then the report went on to say as clearly as the justice department is allowed to say that Trump absolutely engaged in obstruction of justice. They couldn’t indict a sitting President, and you can’t make a public accusation against someone you aren’t going to indict.

          Mueller said that if Trump were innocent of obstruction, he’d say he was, but that he would not say that. He laid out specific criteria for what constitutes obstruction, cited many specific occasions in which he met all those criteria, testified before Congress that if he weren’t the sitting President he would have brought charges against him, and said directly that it was Congress’s duty to impeach him.

          But somehow the GOP convinced everyone that the Mueller report was an exonneration.

    • @[email protected]
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      322 months ago

      True, but considering the numerous other crimes he’s committed haven’t taken him down yet, I’m not so hopeful.

      • Flying SquidOP
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        152 months ago

        Plus, it would have to go through the courts. And if he gets elected, good luck with that.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 months ago

      How would that happen? It’s obvious he was shot at. Others in the crowd got killed/injured as a result of the gunfire. This just seems like standard procedure.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 months ago

        How would that [Trump going down for making some false statements to law enforcement] happen?

        What follows is wild unfounded speculation that 99.9% didn't happen, but is technically a barely plausible hypothetical answer to your question.

        If the ear injury wasn’t caused by a bullet, then the miss wasn’t as near as we thought it was.

        If it missed by a lot despite being at [relatively] short range [for the type of gun used], then maybe it was on purpose.

        If the shooter missed on purpose, maybe it was because he was hired by Trump for a false-flag operation in order to allow Trump to claim martyrdom, or even a casus belli to purge his enemies.

        If this sort of absurd conspiracy were what actually happened, maybe Trump would lie to the FBI to try to cover it up, get caught, and get charged with more crimes.

  • @[email protected]
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    622 months ago

    Is this even news? Seems like a pretty standard thing in an investigation. Of course you interview the victim.

    • @[email protected]
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      122 months ago

      If the victim lies to the FBI said victim may be criminally charged again. If it wasn’t a bullet that would be an embarrassment for victim’s campaign.

  • @[email protected]
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    212 months ago

    Donald cannot open his mouth without lying so he probably shouldn’t do it towards a federal agent when it would be a crime. Not that he would ever be prosecuted since we have a multi-tiered “justice” system.