• @MagicShel
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    10623 days ago

    Google results are actually already pretty terrible. They just have tremendous inertia.

    • @[email protected]
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      2423 days ago

      I stopped using them months ago. I only notice when I’m looking for places (e.g., restaurants, barbers).

      I’m not unhappy but may still shop around.

      • Pixel
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        623 days ago

        yeah, I appreciate the push towards more privacy-centric search engines but as a result searches that are relevant to me geographically on places like startpage are next to useless. I understand why but I wish that local results were a bit better on the alternatives.

    • @[email protected]
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      723 days ago

      We all keep saying this but can anybody point me to which one is better?

      I invariably end up having to go back to them because the other search engines all have their own problems.

      The issue is the internet is polluted with SEO and all the useful things that used to be spread out are now condensed onto places like Reddit, or places that aren’t even being indexed.

      • @MagicShel
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        823 days ago

        Supposedly there’s a paid one that is good. I haven’t tried. The thing is Google is completely enshittified. They don’t have to care about you or the sites you search. So my theory is Bing is better because they are hungrier and anything that takes away market share from Google is good—but I’m fully aware that Microsoft was just as shitty as Google and will be again if they get back on top.

        Everything else I know of is either just an alternate front end for one of them or an aggregator of both. So you’re right, there’s precious little alternative to Google. But it’s almost bad enough I’m ready for the return of web rings of good sites vouching for each other.

          • DominusOfMegadeus
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            323 days ago

            Serious question. Can you spell out for me the exact advantages you feel they provide? I have a free account, but every time I try them out I feel like their answers are honestly a little bit worse than Ecosia.

            • @[email protected]
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              122 days ago

              I find Kagi results a little bit better than Google’s (for most things). I like that certain categories of results are put in their own sections (listicles, forums) so they’re easy to ignore if you want. I like that I can prioritize, deprioritize, block, or pin results from certain domains. I like that I can quickly switch “lenses” to one of the predefined or custom lenses.

            • @[email protected]
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              -123 days ago

              A lot can change in 13 years, but a company that starts off morally evil does not magically get better as time goes on. If anything, they’re worse - we just don’t have the luxury of knowing exactly how yet.

          • @MagicShel
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            123 days ago

            If that was what you took from my post, give it another read. I’m not pro MS. I’m pro not feeding Google. And Bing is fine.

            • @[email protected]
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              223 days ago

              I’m not pro MS. I’m pro not feeding Google.

              I feel like this is similar to arguing that Exxon is bad so it’s better to buy gas from BP.

              Both are shitty options.

              • @MagicShel
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                123 days ago

                Thankfully there are other options because you just nailed the two places I refuse to ever get gas from when there is any other option. If there was a good third option I’d take it here, but while Google commands so much market share and a new competitor would probably siphon users from Bing (and it’s not enough users) I don’t think a real alternative will come. I’m intrigued by kagi, though.