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    3 months ago

    For a lot of time, i thought the 12 hour clock was not that bad

    Until i saw people excluding the AM/PM. What does 6:30-2:30 mean? Are you working -4 hours? Are you working from 18:30 to 2:30 or from 6:30 to 14:30? Why do people choose this time format?

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      3 months ago

      Even though you’re right, context is also important. They’re talking about working in an office, so it shouldn’t be difficult to understand that they’re referring to working 8 hours, from 6:30 AM to 2:30 PM

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      3 months ago

      Do all Europeans choose to purposefully misinterpret information that is actually very easy to understand based on context?

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        The meaning is clear in this context, but not all of them. Especially when instead of a range of hours it is a single one.

        Although it is possible to determine they “probably meant this one”, why would you waste your time guessing based on context and risk being wrong when you can just use 24h and be precise.

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          3 months ago

          Guessing each time if 12 needs to be added (with usually important consequences if you guess wrong) is.

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            3 months ago

            If you need to guess to convert, wouldnt you need to guess if its AM or PM?

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              3 months ago

              Yes. You need to guess if it’s AM or PM. That’s what the comment is about.

              If whoever says the time uses 24h or explicitly says AM/PM there’s no guessing involved.

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                I got confused by the message i was replying to, thinking they were saying that you have to guess to convert between the 2

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                  Until i saw people excluding the AM/PM. What does 6:30-2:30 mean? Are you working -4 hours? Are you working from 18:30 to 2:30 or from 6:30 to 14:30? Why do people choose this time format?

                  No, this is what is confusing you. It’s like you never had any simple education, or you’re completely unaware of your surroundings.

                  How is it possible to be so confused about clocks?

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                    3 months ago

                    I can easily read clocks

                    I can easily understand time with AM/PM

                    People writing time without AM/PM is the part i dont understand

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        Yeah my company doesn’t care when I come and go as long as I work 40 hours and don’t miss meetings. 4 day workweeks are generally frowned upon but you can do it now and then.

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      06:30-02:30 (note the 0!) means 6:30 am to 2:30 am the following day. Anything in pm would be +12 hours. 6:30 pm becomes 18:30; 2:30pm is 14:30. Using this format you want 06:30-14:30 which is 8 hours.

      This format is important because it actually solves the problem you are trying to explain (am/pm). Regularly I need to give EST database timestamps for a PST server cluster while living in another timezone myself and speaking to someone in India which is :30min difference in time zones and trying to account for daylight savings. Removing am/pm just makes it easier to track what happens in different places without looking at the wrong time window. Time math is messy and stupid, be specific by using 24 hours instead of 12

      Edit: I guess no one works in timestamps, keep on being terrible for the rest of us.

      Edit 2: if you don’t understand how time works, reconsider your opinion. Spreading misinformation is damaging

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        I just subtract 2 after 1300. That’s what works quicker in my head.

        1300 = 1pm.
        1400 = 2pm.
        1500 = 3pm.
        And so forth.
        It’s the same thing, but I just ignore the 1.