• @lowleveldata
    link
    English
    3622 days ago

    You can’t have 1st and 2nd without the 3rd kind

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      3
      edit-2
      21 days ago

      I think the comic is about types of published articles with the 3rd being “we collated and collected a bunch of data to make this database that other researchers will find useful”-type papers. So you don’t need to rely on the map of every tree if you just map some trees yourself.

      • @lowleveldata
        link
        English
        522 days ago

        How do you make theories without observation?

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          4
          edit-2
          22 days ago

          #3 is not about making observations in general but about making a map of every tree. This is a common mistake of scientists, wanting to have a complete set of data on their topic. I myself have to remind myself of this as well when designing projects. But in reality you cannot make a map of every tree and even if you could, what’s it worth? You need abstractions to understand anything and models are just that. To design a good research study you need to balance how many observations are necessary vs how much effort they take.

          • @lowleveldata
            link
            English
            221 days ago

            I feel like it’s just useful for different use cases. You don’t need to start with making a map of all trees everytime but it certainly would be handy if someone else had compiled a map of all / most trees for reference.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              121 days ago

              It just isn’t feasible. But maybe this is my ecological background speaking. Because, sure, if I’d look at different branches of science, it might be doable and also useful. But if you look at ecology (and making a map of every tree is ecology) then this just isn’t useful enough for a task that is basically impossible to achieve. That’s why in ecological research there are some standard sampling methods, like plots, transects, etc. Within these, you could do a map of all the trees if necessary. But these will be only a fraction of the whole system you look at.

              • Tlaloc_Temporal
                link
                fedilink
                English
                219 days ago

                We have made some amazing discoveries with full-sky maps and analysis of the CMB. The human genome project has also yeilded a wealth of discoveries.