In a first, an American woman used a suicide pod to take her own life. The process took place in Switzerland. It’s done by pumping in only nitrogen gas, so the person will lose goes dizzy, loses consciousness and eventually dies. Enter futurama memes.
On a pet forum people regularly talk about (and suggest to others) how they euthanize their old / sick rodents at home using carbon-dioxide unlike nitrogen like this capsule uses. I looked into what’s the difference and it turns out inhaling pure carbon-dioxide instantly causes panic and the sense of suffocation and it’s a horrible way to die. They were even able to cause an panic attack on a person physically uncapable of experiencing fear. There are videos online about killing pigs like this and it’s not a pretty sight. Suffice to say I no longer take advice from those people.
Ya CO2 is basically the feeling of normal suffocation. Might as well hold a plastic bag over their head.
Co2 reaction is highly, highly concentration-dependent. Rodent euthanasia ideally starts around 20% which makes them cranky and sleepy, they go to sleep, then concentration is upped to around 80% and they die very quickly. Yes, they feel bad when they go to sleep, but it is a mild bad and it’s all over quickly. Rodent euthanasia horror stories are about getting the concentration wrong, not the co2 itself.
Nitrogen - as long as the flow is strong enough to remove exhaled co2 - won’t make anyone cranky, but it takes longer, and the longer it takes the higher the risk of something going wrong with the setup. So, tradeoffs.
Yeah your drive to breathe is based on CO2 in the blood not O2 level. The higher the CO2 the more you feel the need to breathe. That’s why the capsule uses nitrogen. You don’t respond to the lack of O2 and can still flush the CO2 from your system.
There are more and more vets that are using firearms now on farms to euthanize because the drugs they use also cause panic. A 9mm round to the brain instantly incapacitates the animal, they don’t even know what happens. It’s the kindest way to euthanize your animals, anyone telling you the cocktail of drugs or co2 is more humane is full of shit.
Not to mention that the drug they use, euthanyl is very bad to get into the ecosystem. If you have a pet euthanized then you can’t take it home and bury it because the chemical will poison anything that happens to dig up the body and eat it.
Yup, there have been a lot of reports of vultures getting sick or dying from improperly disposed animals.
In a way I hope my dog dies of natural causes because I don’t want to put him down and not get to put him in the forest of our backyard.
Cremation is bullshit, they cremate a pile of pets all at once and scoop out some for each person. You likely aren’t getting your own pet back.
Our vet offers a choice between group or solo cremation, with the latter of course costing more.
And yeah that’s assuming they’re being honest, lol.
Physical trauma makes sense for large animals. If you have 50 lab rats that you need to euthanize, a gassing setup can make more sense than individually whacking them.
It makes sense and is more convenient, yes, but they were saying that it’s more humane to do the physical instead.
If you had the time and patience to do a tiny bolt gun to the brain of all 50 rats individually it would probably be more humane. But it’s inconvenient and difficult.
Completely agreed, but at that point, just use nitrogen, it’s insane that this isn’t the standard practice.
yeah 50 bullets would be kind of expensive. Why not just: https://youtu.be/S1rUooUhZAo?t=301
Why …why are there so many can crushing videos… I’d thought I’ve seen everything on the net by now
Wouldn’t NO2 work too at similar cost? Or Helium?
That’s horrible. Why would anyone think that co2 is in any way an acceptable way of taking a life?
I guess it’s slightly more efficient than just putting your pets in an airtight container. But still pretty awful.
Because it’s cheap and effective. Why splurge on a bottle of compressed nitrogen or argon when all it does is forgo suffering and cost more? Think of the bottom line.
Is nitrogen even expensive to get? It’s absolutely everywhere, 70% of air is nitrogen
It’s not rare but it’s a pain in the ass to purify and transport. Semiconductor place I used to work had a gigantic 1000 gallon tank of the stuff they had to get refilled every month. Had to have some specialty chemical tanker truck it out. Then there’s problems with icing your whole setup once you actually have the stuff and try to use it. It’s less of an immediate fiscal strain and more of an expensive infrastructure problem.
Would I rather die breathing bottled carbon dioxide, or burn to death? Actually given what actually kills most people in fires isn’t the burns but smoke inhalation maybe I’ll go with the bottle of CO2. What about freezing to death? Might depend on the OAT, if it’s like 30 out that would take a long time to expire, but -50?
What a grim line of thought.