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$8000* Disaster Prebuilt PC - Corsair & Origin Fail Again | GamersNexus
gamersnexus.netPC Builds $8000* Disaster Prebuilt PC - Corsair & Origin Fail Again May 19, 2025 Last Updated: 2025-05-19 We test Origin's expensive PCâs thermals, acoustics, power, frequency, and perform a tear-down The Highlights Our Origin Genesis PC comes with an RTX 5090, 9800X3D, and 32GB of system memoryDue to poor system thermals, the memory on the GPU fails our testingThe fans in the system donât ramp up until the liquid-cooled CPU gets warm, which means the air-cooled GPU temperature suffersOriginal MSRP: $6,050+Release Date: January 2025 Table of Contents AutoTOC Our fully custom 3D Emblem Glasses celebrate our 15th Anniversary! We hand-assemble these on the East Coast in the US with a metal badge, strong adhesive, and high-quality pint glass. They pair excellently with our 3D 'Debug' Drink Coasters. Purchases keep us ad-free and directly support our consumer-focused reviews! Intro We paid $6,050 for Origin PCâs 5090-powered Genesis when it launched, or $6,500 after taxes. Today, a similar build has a list price of $8,396. Markup is $1,700 to $2,500 over DIY. This computer costs as much as an RTX Pro 6000, or a used car, or a brand new Kia Rio with a lifetime warranty in 2008 with passenger doors that fall off⊠The point is, this is expensive, and it also sucks. Editor's note: This was originally published on May 16, 2025 as a video. This content has been adapted to written format for this article and is unchanged from the original publication. Credits Test Lead, Host, Writing Steve Burke Video Editing, Camera Mike Gaglione Testing, Writing Jeremy Clayton Camera Tim Phetdara Writing, Web Editing Jimmy Thang The RTX 5090 is the most valuable thing in this for its 32GB of VRAM, and to show you how much they care about the only reason youâd buy this prebuilt, Origin incinerates the memory at 100 degrees Celsius by choosing to not spin the fans for 8 minutes while under load. The so-called âpremiumâ water cooling includes tubes made out of discolored McDonaldâs toy plastic that was left in the sun too long, making it look old, degraded, and dirty. But there are some upsides for this expensive computer. For example, itâs quiet, to its credit, mostly because the fans donât spinâŠfor 8 minutes. Overview Originally, this Origin Genesis pre-built cost $6,488 â and thatâs after taxes and a $672 discount off the initial sticker price of $6,722. We ordered it immediately after the RTX 5090 launch, which turned out to be one of the only reliable ways to actually get a 5090 with supply as bad as it was (and continues to be). It took a while to come in, but it did arrive in the usual Origin crate. We reviewed one of these a couple years ago that was a total disaster of a combo. The system had a severely underclocked CPU, ridiculously aggressive fan behavior (which is the opposite of the system weâre reviewing today), chipped paint, and a nearly unserviceable hardline custom liquid cooling loop. Hopefully this one has improved. And hopefully isnât 1GHz below spec. Parts and Price Origin PC RTX 5090 + 9800X3D "Genesis" Part Prices | GamersNexus Part NameRetail Price 4/25MotherboardMSI PRO B650-P WIFI$190CPURyzen 7 9800X3D$480Graphics CardNVIDIA RTX 5090 Founders Edition$2,000RAMCorsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 (2x16GB)$93SSD 1Corsair MP600 CORE XT 1TB PCIe 4 M.2 SSD$70Custom Loop"Hydro X iCUE LINK Cooling" / Pump, Rad, Block, Fittings$712Fans12x Corsair iCUE LINK RX120 120mm Fan$360CaseCorsair 7000D Airflow$240PSUCorsair RM1200x SHIFT 80+ Gold PSU$230RGB/Fan Controller2x Corsair iCUE Link System Hub$118Operating SystemWindows 11N/AT-ShirtORIGIN PC T-ShirtN/AMousepadORIGIN PC Mouse PadN/AShipping"ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process: ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor"N/A???"The ORIGIN Difference: Unrivaled Quality & Performance"PricelessTotal retail cost of all parts as of April 2025$4,493 Weâll price it out based on the original, pre-tariff $6,050 build before taxes and with a 10% off promo. Keep in mind that the new price is $7,500 to $8,400, depending on when you buy. The good news is that nothing is proprietary â all of its parts are standard. The bad news is that this means we can directly compare it to retail parts which, at the time we wrote this piece, would cost $4,493, making for a $1,557 markup compared to the pre-tax subtotal. Thatâs a huge amount to pay for someone to screw the parts together. Given the price of the system, the MSI PRO B650-P WIFI motherboard and 1TB SSD are stingy and the 7000D Airflow case is old at this point. The parts donât match the price. Just two months after we ordered and around when it finally arrived, Origin now offers a totally different case and board with the Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite. The base SSD is still just 1TB though â only good enough for roughly two or three full Call of Duty installs. The detailed packing sheet lists 22 various water cooling fittings, but, curiously, the build itself only has 15, plus one more in the accessory kit, making it 16 by our count. We donât know how Origin got 22 here, but it isnât 22. Hopefully we werenât charged for 22. Oh, and it apparently comes with â1 Integrated High-Definition.â Good. Thatâs good. We wouldnât want 0 integrated high definitions. Similar to last time, you also get âThe ORIGIN Difference: Unrivaled Quality & Performanceâ as a line item. Putting intangible, unachievable promises on the literal receipt is the Origin way: Originâs quality is certainly rivaled. Against DIY, pricing is extreme and insane as an absolute dollar amount when the other SIs are around $500-$800 markup at the high end. In order for this system to be âworthâ $1,500 more than DIY, it would need to be immaculate and itâs not. The only real value the PC offers is the 5090. Finding a 5090 Founders Edition now for $2,000 is an increasingly unlikely scenario. Lately, price increases with scarcity and tariffs have resulted in 5090s closer to $2,800 or more, so the markup with that instead would be $777 if we assume a 5090 costs $2,800. Thatâs still a big markup, and the motherboard is still disappointing, the tubes are still discolored, the SSD is too small, and it still has problems with the fans not properly spinning, but itâs less insane. Build Quality Getting into the parts choices: This new Genesis has a loop thatâs technically set up better than the last one, but it only cools the CPU. That means we have a $6,500 computer with water cooling, but only on the coolest of the two silicon parts -- the one that pulls under 150W. That leaves the 575W RTX 5090 FE to fend for itself, and that doesnât always go well. Originally, Origin didnât have the option to water cool the 5090. Itâs just a shame that Origin isnât owned by a gigantic PC hardware company that manufactures its own water cooling components and even has its own factories and is publicly traded and transacts billions of dollars a year to the point that it might have had enough access to make a block... A damn shame. Maybe weâll buy from a bigger company next time. At least now, with the new sticker price of $8,400, you can spend another $200 and add a water block to the GPU. Problem solved -- turns out, we just needed to spend even more money. Hereâs a closer look at Originâs âpremiumâ cooling solution, complete with saggy routing that looks deflated and discolored tubing that has that well-hydrated catheter tube coloring to it. The fluid is clean and the contents of the block are fine, but the tubing is the problem. In fact, the included drain tube is the correct coloring, making it even more obvious how discolored the loop is. Corsair says its XT Softline tubing is âUV-resistant tubing made to withstand the test of time without any discoloration or deforming.â So clearly something is wrong. Or not âclearly,â actually, seeing as itâs not clear. The tubing looks gross. It shouldnât look gross. The spare piece in the accessory kit doesnât look gross. The coolant is even Corsairâs own XL8 clear fluid, making it even more inexcusable. Weâre not the only ones to have this problem, though â we found several posts online with the same issue and very little in the way of an official response from Corsair or Origin. We only saw one reply asking the user to contact support. Even without the discoloration, it comes off as looking amateurish from the way it just hangs around the inside of the case. Thereâs not a lot you can do about long runs of flexible tubing, unless maybe youâre the one building it and have complete control of everything in the pipeline... There is one thing we can compliment about the loop: Origin actually added a ball valve at the bottom underneath the pump for draining and maintenance, which is something that we directly complained about on the previous Origin pre-built. Weâre glad to see that get addressed. The fans in the build are part of Corsairâs relatively new LINK family, so theyâre all daisy chained together with a single USB-C-esque cable and controlled together in tandem by two of Corsairâs hubs. Itâs an interesting (if expensive) system that extends to include the pump and CPU block â both of which have liquid temperature sensors. Tear-down Grab a GN15 Large Anti-Static Modmat to celebrate our 15th Anniversary and for a high-quality PC building work surface. The Modmat features useful PC building diagrams and is anti-static conductive. Purchases directly fund our work! (or consider a direct donation or a Patreon contribution!) Weâre starting the tear-down by looking at the cable management side. Opening up the swinging side panel, we noticed masking tape on the dust filter, which weâre actually okay with as itâs to keep it in place during shipping and is removable.  Internally, theyâve included all of the unused PSU cables in the systemâs accessories box, which weâll talk more about down below. The cable routing makes sense and is generally well managed. While they tied the cables together, not all of the ties were tied down to the chassis. The system uses the cable management channel for the 24-pin connector. Overall, itâs clean and theyâve done well here. Looking at the other side of the system, we can see that the power cable leading into the 5090 is mostly seated, and isnât a concern to us. Removing the water blockâs cable, it had a little piece of plastic which acted as a pull tab. Thatâs actually kind of nice. Removing the screws on the water block reveal that they are captive, which is nice. Looking at the pattern, we can see that they used pre-applied paste via a silk screen. That allowed contact for all 8 legs of the IHS, which looked good with overall even pressure. The block application was also good. Looking at how well all of the cables were seated, everything was fine from the CPU fan header down to the front panel connectors. Removing the heat sync off the NVMe SSD, we didnât see any plastic on the thermal pad, which is good. Look at the 16GB DDR 6000 RAM modules, they are in the correct slots and Origin outfitted them with Corsair 36-44-44-96 sticks, which are not the greatest timings. Examining the tightness of all the screws on the motherboard, we didnât encounter any loose screws. Removing the motherboard from the case, everything looked fine. Looking at the motherboard out of the case, itâs a lower-end board than weâd like to see out of a premium system. Looking at the fans, they are immaculately installed, which is partially due to how theyâre connected together. This results in a very clean setup.  The back side of the PC has a massive radiator. And overall, the system has very clean cable management and the assembly was mostly good. This relegates the systemâs biggest issues being the value and its water-cooling setup. We didnât drain the loop so weâre going to keep running it and see what it looks like down the road. Thermal Benchmarks System Thermals at Steady State Getting into the benchmarking, weâll start with thermals. Right away, the 96-degree result on the memory junction is a problem -- especially because this is an average, which means we have spikes periodically to 100 degrees. The technical rating on this memory is 105 degrees for maximum safety spec. This is getting way too close and is hotter than what we saw in our 5090 FE review. This is also when all of the thermal pads are brand new. The Origin pre-built uses a large case with 12 fans, so it should be impossible for the GPU to be this hot. The Ryzen 9800X3D hit 87C at steady-state â which is also not great for how much cooling is in this box. All of the various motherboard and general system temperature sensors fell well within acceptable ranges. Finally, the watercooling parts provide a couple of liquid temperatures. The pump is on the âcoolâ side of the loop and read 36.7C at steady state, while the coolant in the block on the âhotâ side of the loop got up to 41.3C. You typically want liquid temperature to stay under 55C (at the most) to not violate spec on the pump and tubing, so this is fine. We need to plot these over time to uncover some very strange behavior. CPU Temperature vs. Fan Speeds Over Time CPU temperature during the test starts out on a slow ramp upwards during the idle period. When the CPU load first starts, we see an immediate jump to about 72C, a brief drop, then a long and steady rise from roughly 250 seconds to 750 seconds into the test where it levels off at the 87C mark. The VRM temperature follows the same general curve, but takes longer to reach steady-state. Adding the liquid temperatures to the chart shows the same breakpoints. Finally, adding pump and fan speeds gives us the big reveal for why the curves look like this. The pump stair steps up in speed while the temperatures rise, but the fans donât even turn on for over 8 minutes into the loadâs runtime. Once theyâre actually running, they average out to just 530RPM, which is so slow that they might as well be off. This is an awful configuration. Response to liquid temperature isnât new, but this is done without any thought whatsoever. If you tie all fans to liquid temperature, and if you have parts not cooled by liquid like VRAM on the video card, then youâre going to have a bad time. And thatâs the next chart. But before that one, this is an overcorrection from how Origin handled the last custom loop PC we reviewed from the company, which immediately ramped the fans up high as it could as soon as the CPU started doing anything. Maybe now they can find a middle ground since weâve found the two extremes of thoughtless cooling. GPU Temperature vs. Fan Speeds Over Time This chart shows GPU temperatures versus GPU fan speed. The GPU temperature under load rises to around 83C before coming back down when the case fans finally kick on. As a reminder, 83-84 degrees is when NVIDIA starts hard throttling the clocks more than just from GPU Boost, so theyâre dropping clocks as a result of this configuration. The 5090âs VRAM already runs hot on an open bench â 89 to 90 degrees Celsius â and that gets pushed up to peak at 100C in the Origin pre-built. This is unacceptable. Adding the GPU fan speed to the chart shows us how the Founders Edition cooler attempts to compensate by temporarily boosting fan speed to 56% during this time, which also means that Origin isnât even benefiting as much from the noise levels as it should from the slower fans. Balancing them better would benefit noise more. As neat of a party trick as it is to have the case fans stay off unless theyâre needed in the loop, Origin should have kept at least one or two running at all times, like rear exhaust, to give the GPU some help. Besides, letting the hot air linger could potentially encourage local hot spots to form on subcomponents that arenât directly monitored, which can lead to problems. Power At The Wall Now weâll look at full system load power consumption by logging it at the wall â so everything, even efficiency losses from the PSU, is taken into account. Idle, it pulled a relatively high 125W. At the 180 second mark, the CPU load kicks in. Thereâs a jump at 235 seconds when the GPU load kicks in. We see a slight ramp upwards in power consumption after that, which tracks with increasing leakage as the parts heat up, before settling in at an average of 884W at steady state. Acoustics Next weâll cover dBA over time as measured in our hemi-anechoic chamber. At idle, the fans are off, which makes for a functionally silent system at the noise floor. The first fans to come on in the system are on the GPU, bringing noise levels up to a still-quiet range of 25-28dBA at 1 meter. The loudest point is 30.5 dBA when the GPU fans briefly ramp and before system fans kick in. CPU Frequency vs. Original Review For CPU frequency, fortunately for Origin, it didnât randomly throttle it by 1GHz this time. The 9800X3D managed to stay at 5225MHz during the CPU-only load portion of torture test â the same frequency that we recorded in our original review for the CPU so thatâ good. At steady state with the GPU dumping over 500W of heat into the case, the average core frequency dropped by 50MHz. If Origin made better use of its dozen or so fans, it should hold onto more of that frequency. BIOS Configuration BIOS for the Origin pre-built is set up sensibly, at least. The build date is January 23, which was the latest available in the time between when we ordered the system at the 50 series launch and when the system was actually assembled. Scrutinizing the chosen settings revealed nothing out of line. The DDR5-6000 memory profile was enabled and the rest of the core settings were properly set to Auto. This was all fine. Setup and Software The Windows install was normal with no bloatware. Thatâs also good. The desktop had a few things on it. A âLink Windows 10 Key to Microsoft Accountâ PDF is helpful for people who donât know what to do if their system shows the Activate Windows watermark. Confusingly, it hasnât been updated to say â11â instead of â10.â It also shepherds the user towards using a Microsoft account. Thatâs not necessarily a bad thing, but we donât like how it makes it seem necessary because itâs not and you shouldnât. Thereâs also an âOrigin PC ReadMeâ PDF that doesnât offer much except coverage for Originâs ass with disclaimers and points of contact for support. One useful thing is that it points the user to âC:\\ORIGIN PCâ to find âimportant items.â That folder has Origin branded gifs, logos, and wallpapers, as well as CPU-Z, Teamviewer, and a Results folder. Teamviewer is almost certainly for Originâs support teams to be able to remotely inspect the PC during support calls. It makes sense to have that stuff on there. The results folder contains an OCCT test report that shows a total of 1 hour and 52 minutes of testing. A CPU test for 12 minutes, CPU + RAM, memory, and 3D adaptive tests for 30 minutes each, then finishing with 10 minutes of OCCTâs âpowerâ test, which is a combined full system load. Itâs great that Origin actually does testing and provides this log as a baseline for future issues, and just for base expectations. This is good and gives you something to work from. Not having OCCT pre-installed to actually run again for comparison is a support oversight. Itâs free for personal use at least, so the user could go download it easily. There werenât any missing drivers in Device Manager and NVIDIAâs 572.47 driver from February 20 was the latest at the time of the build â both good things. There wasnât any bundled bloatware installed, so points to Origin for that. iCUE itself isnât as bad as it used to be, but itâs still clunky, like the preloaded fan profiles not showing their set points. Packaging On to packaging. The Origin Genesis pre-built came in a massive wooden crate that was big enough for two people to move around. Considering this PC was $6,500 after taxes (at the time), weâre definitely OK with the wooden crate and its QR code opening instructions. Origin uses foam, a fabric cover, a cardboard box within a crate, and the crate for the PC. The case had two packs of expanding foam inside it, allowing the GPU to arrive undamaged and installed. The sticker on the side panel also had clear instructions. These are good things. Unfortunately, thereâs a small chip in the paint on top of the case, but not as bad as the last Origin paint issues we had and we think itâs unrelated to the packaging itself. Accessories The accessory kit is basic, and came inside of a box with the overused cringey adage âEAT SLEEP GAME REPEATâ printed on it. Inside are the spare PSU cables (that weâre happy to see included), an AC power cable, stock 5090 FE power adapter, standard motherboard and case accessories, a G1/4 plug tool and extra plugs, and a piece of soft tubing with a fitting on one end that can be used to help drain the cooling loop. All of this is good. Conclusion Visit our Patreon page to contribute a few dollars toward this website's operation (or consider a direct donation or buying something from our GN Store!) Additionally, when you purchase through links to retailers on our site, we may earn a small affiliate commission. During this review process, the price went even higher. You already shouldnât buy this, but just to drive it home: Now, for the same configuration, the Genesis now costs $7,557 after the discount, off the new sticker price of $8,396. Thatâs an increase of over $1,000, making the premium over current DIY pricing roughly $1,700-$2,500. Now, there are good reasons for the price to go up. Tariffs have a real impact on pricing and weâre going to see it everywhere, and tariffs are also outside of Corsairâs control. We donât fault them for that. But that doesnât change the fact that the cost over DIY is so insanely elevated. Even Corsairâs own competitors offer better value than this, like Maingear. At $8,400 sticker price, youâd have to be drunk on whatever is discoloring Originâs loop to buy it. Nobody should buy this, especially not for gaming. If youâre doing productivity or creative work that would seriously benefit from the 5090âs 32GB of VRAM, then look elsewhere for a better deal. This costs nearly as much as an RTX Pro 6000, which has 96GB of VRAM and is better. It would actually be cheaper to get scalped for a 5090 on Ebay and then buy the whole rest of the computer than to buy this Origin system. Thatâs how crazy this is. The upcharge, even assuming a 5090 price of $2,800, is just way too high versus other system integrators. Seriously, Alienware is cheaper at this point â by thousands of dollars. Alienware. We canât recommend this PC. Ignoring the price, the memory on the video card is hitting 100 degrees C in workloads when the fans arenât turning on because the fans are set to turn on based on the liquid temperature and the liquid doesnât touch the GPU. For that reason alone, it gets a failing grade. For our thermal testing, pre-builts have to pass the torture test. If they donât, they instantly fail. Thatâs how it always works for our pre-built reviews. This system has, unfortunately, instantly failed.
- Our Origin Genesis PC comes with an RTX 5090, 9800X3D, and 32GB of system memory
- Due to poor system thermals, the memory on the GPU fails our testing
- The fans in the system donât ramp up until the liquid-cooled CPU gets warm, which means the air-cooled GPU temperature suffers
Yeach but its also not that easy. Choosing parts in particular is a nightmare. Ohh this ram has very high clocks but low latency is that good bad , how high is even high, there is a goddam sheet with hundred(s) of position just power supply beacuse apparently some sucks, x3d procesors dont come with cooling and choosing a good one is another bad experience also some cases are too small for some gpus , some have bad airflow, and the recommended ones are goddam expensive ( fractal for example ). Its actually horrible. Too many things to choose from .
Absolutely! My comment was more geared at the people who seem to think assembling is the difficult part. Fortunately, we live in an age where there are reputable sites that have largely automated the compatibility process and help with budgetary concerns. Unfortunately; crypto, ai, and geopolitics have really dampened the affordability, though it really isnât beyond most people skillwise with a passing interest to assemble a desktop pc. Another issue, one I personally suffered from in the past, is belive you need to be on the bleeding edge to make it worthwhile. Advancements in the consumer space are not quite as drastic as they once were, so there are certainly some opportunities for satisfying budget builds if people are willing to make certain tradeoffs.