Sorry (🍁) we did this without making a post, but after receiving several complaints we defederated from hexbear.net yesterday.
Here’s a few quick examples of poor conduct by hexbear users:
- Spamming bullshit links to the pig poop picture: https://lemmy.cas/u/[email protected]
- General trolling: https://lemmy.ca/comment/2146513
- Posting the pig poop emoji repeatedly and not adding value to discussions: https://lemmy.ca/u/[email protected] https://lemmy.ca/u/[email protected]
- Calling for exections of landlords: https://lemmy.ca/comment/2154580
They warned their users to behave themselves, but that didn’t work: https://hexbear.net/post/280770?scrollToComments=false
Please read and respect the rules of the community instance in which you are posting/commenting. Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated. Realize that you are a representative of the hexbear instance when you post on other instances.
“Practice V Theory” I suppose. Looks good on paper when written by one smart german dude 175yr ago, works poorly when implimented by anyone else who’s tried it (oh right “it’s never been tried”).
Seriously, poke around these two communities and next time you see calls for murder ask what happens to the landlords that aren’t corporations after the revolution, just see if they don’t try to convince you why all landlords are actually deserving of death. Fantasy V Reality.
Edit: in fact, you don’t have to go far, this comment is also a reply to the one you replied to, in which he asserts (albeit thinly veiled) that they don’t want to kill “innocent people” just “landlords, all landlords, as none of them are innocent by default cause landlord.” See?
Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=192&v=KNGIyUnLX_0&feature=youtu.be
However it is much easier to sell/convert your assets than it is to give up a political leaning. In my country the death penalty is not allowed, however in the US it is. As long as that is the case any argument that death can’t be the answer to crimes (and this is what they demand) can’t really be done.
This is legalism.
Besides during Covid we did see how eager Corporations and Governments were with letting people die, so 5 years ago I would’ve taken your argument with more seriousness.
All in all your arguments fall flat with what they tell. Do I think that during revolutions people might die? Yes. I do believe that the use of violence by states is something they have to do to remain states. They use violence even for internal matters that are about shares of profit of society (political economy) and kill people.
Does this instance’s want for civility clash with their instance’s post? Yes. Do their posters do act uncivil on this instance? Not all, but some, which could be banned. The admins take a quicker approach that targets innocent posters, that use of force (control over the instance) is due to the admins quasi-monopoly on admin powers, too. So ultimately it was a decision of the admins.
In certain circumstances.* Here is the wiki article on US Capital Punishment. Note: “It is usually applied for only the most serious crimes, like aggravated murder.” So you and that other joker are telling me that “charging rent” is just like beating multiple women’s heads in with a tire iron and fucking the corpses (what got Ted Bundy put to death)? Even if you see entering a mutually agreed upon contract in which a homeowner charges rent to maintain the dwelling you pay rent for, as inherently exploitative, which again is debatable, one does not get put to death for exploitation, the get at maximum a prison sentence. You really don’t have to look far to find these clowns, you are one.
Ah yes, so Law=Right? Guess we need to start murdering anyone who breaks the smallest law huh? Sounds like a good plan to me. So, if say Georgia makes it legal to execute trans people is that ok? No? But “It’s legalism,” like you said! OH and that means slavery and the holocaust which were legal were also cool?
OOOORRRR murdering people is wrong even with the backing of the government. Personally I’m on that side, but good to know you disagree I suppose.
Whether you want to believe it or not, nonaction is not the same as putting the bullet in someone’s brain pan yourself. If you see them as the same you should feel real bad about all those starving kids in third world countries you’re personally killing right now.
This isn’t about your instance, this is about “this is what these people actually believe.” You’re following conmen.
Enough people in the US were killed for crimes way smaller what you describe, even people that we know were innocent and there are still people facing the death penalty that are innocent.
However unhoused people face a much higher risk to death, systematic coercion for rent and what is combined with it is coercing with the threat of not having a safe place during catastrophes, yes that is more than a small crime (if you take their position). It would be more akin to running organized crime.
My solution for that isn’t what they suggest, but don’t take the worst possible interpretation about them, then you will show more what you think about them.
You need to sit down on a bench and listen to some introductory philosophy and politics lectures.
If you agree that killing (which isn’t murder, the latter being a legal distinction) people is wrong what did you do to stop the people dying from Covid, dying from the climate catastrophe, etc.?