• MadhuGururajan
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    5 天前

    Every system prioritizes maximizing profit/satisfaction

    Wrong. Only capitalism does this. Profit motive doesn’t exist in socialist systems that place more importance on sustainable living.

    If you can live within your means, there is no need for “growth” or “going to the next big thing”. No need to trample on others to achieve “success” which funnily for people whose definition of it is “making money”, is quite a shallow and sad thing to wish for.

    The claim that all systems prioritize maximizing profit is dreamed up by hollow people who have to fill holes in their sad souls with unfathomable power, control, and freedom from accountability and responsibility to even feel barely satisfied for a moment.

    People who are connected with the spirit of the world and have empathy don’t advocate for a system bereft of empathy and s system in which empathy is considered a weakness. A system where if you put on a mask (translation: become incorporated) then suddenly no moral obligations can stop you. You can just chant the magic words “But a business exists solely to make profit” as justifications to brush aside deplorable behavior in pursuit of wealth and power.

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        4 天前

        so you agree that we don’t need capitalism for businesses to exist? And that socialist policies do work and can co-exist with a free market?

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          4 天前

          I think the only way you could argue capitalism “doesn’t need to exist” in a “free market” is if you have an extremely different definition of capitalism than me and the dictionary.

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            4 天前

            I think

            most who argue for capitalism only think about themselves at the expense of everybody and everything else.

            Capitalism is always “lets make differences in material conditions by promulgating that only those with money are considered successful” and then stealing from that differential. It’s quite obvious how terms like “inefficiencies in the market” can mean something quite different to a CEO and to someone who is born into poverty, or worse the wrong skin colour or ethnicity.

            The people who hate socialism only see freeloaders who take the fruits of their hardwork. Those who actually have empathy can understand that their success also depends on a functioning and prosperous society where parents had ample support to raise children who would grow up with a nurturing environment.

            A capitalist only thinks in terms of pure profit terms. He/she would discard old people who used to work hard for the survival and benefit of society as a whole as “spent fuel”.

            An oft made argument is that Capitalism is the best system so far. That just sounds like Feudalism with a recurrent reminder of monarchy and autocracy.

            You don’t use the excuse that “Every system has profit motive” to follow up with “I will choose the system that rewards that behavior”. An empathetic system of reasoning would allow socialist policies while keeping free markets alive. Such a system is proven to work in countries like Denmark, Netherlands, etc.