in a thread complaining about the general state of lemmy, I read a comment where someone linked the alternative lemmy UI Photon. some general thoughts:

  • this shit looks like new.reddit, which I hate
  • however, it is extremely fast
  • it looks like someone with UX experience was at least in proximity to this at the time it was designed?
  • I don’t think there’s an easy CSS way to make this look less like new.reddit
  • having tried it on a test instance, the promise of better mod/admin tools seems ambitious currently, though maybe they’ll get there faster than lemmy-ui
  • overall, it feels a lot nicer to use than either lemmy-ui or new.reddit

you can hook Photon up to awful.systems using the Accounts option in the menu on the top right, though for opsec reasons I can’t encourage anyone to log in to this weird external site with their awful.systems credentials. check it out with the guest instance option (which doesn’t need a login) or use a disposable lemmy.ml account or something

what I want to know is: does anyone use this thing, and does anyone want it here? if there’s demand for it, I can spin up a secure copy of it for our instance under an alternate path. for me it’s a bit of a hard sell due to its resemblance to the reddit redesign, but lemmy’s UI is decoupled enough from its backend that running this thing shouldn’t impact much

  • Xylight (photon dev)English
    4•9 months ago

    this shit … which I hate

    it looks like someone with UX experience was at least in proximity to this at the time it was designed?

    ouch. that hurt.

      • @[email protected]OPMEnglish
        4•9 months ago

        I was about to say “unless I really love it and use it everywhere like NixOS” but my first post about NixOS here called it fucking incomprehensible so uh

    • @[email protected]OPMEnglish
      6•9 months ago

      ah yep, I can see how my post could come off to someone unfamiliar with my writing style. I added a bullet point with my (generally positive) impression on Photon, but to restate the two items you quoted with more clarity:

      • I personally don’t like the Reddit redesign, but a lot of that is because it feels janky and slow. Photon on the other hand is fast as fuck and overall feels better to use than the Reddit redesign. but a new.reddit-style UI is still very divisive, which is why I started this thread as an interest check for this instance’s users
      • one of the things the UX designers around here know on contact with lemmy-ui is that a designer wasn’t present at any point during its implementation — it breaks so many conventions for no good reason and is generally miserable to use. Photon does much better in terms of design, and that’s another reason to recommend it
      • overall, regardless of my feelings on new.reddit UIs or whether we adopt Photon, it’s still an engineering feat you should be proud of

      if you’re curious about the tone of my post, awful.systems is broadly a tech cynicism/sneering instance, created to migrate the reddit communities r/SneerClub and r/TechTakes to Lemmy. we do have a couple of lighter-traffic positivity communities, but in general the house style of this instance is roughly what you’d expect from its origins