Can someone explain in short what problem people had about Omegle?
Was it that you can say things (and show things) there to a random person without any good possibility to trace it back to you because it’s anonymous and more “temporary” then something like Lemmy for example?
Or was it just a witch hunt without any real reasonable structure?
It’s crazy to sometimes stop to think about how many nice things we could have if it wasn’t for pedophiles. Not a joke either, actually give it some thought.
A lot of people also use pedophiles as a basis for their nefarious plans. “Protect the children” is a rallying cry of the alt right, despite how many child rapists exist in the cult.
For sure but there are legit cultural things too that are affected. Say you walk by a playground and a kid falls off a tree or something and hurts himself, you can’t see the kids parents anywhere and consoling him would risk you being perceived as a pervert. For consoling a kid that hurt itself. Like jesus what the fuck
That is not restricted to alt-right. That is more of a trope of the centrists and even most capitalist leftists. Alt-right prefers freedom and anonymity without consequences instead, to abuse it and get away with bad deeds.
The “alt-right” never think about the children nor have they done anything with children as an excuse. That was the rallying cry of the “Compassionate Conservatives” and the televangelists who banned video games and rap music in the 90’s and also why you have to click “yes I’m 18” on many websites including lemmy. “Think of the children” is just what authoritarians use as an excuse to push their agenda whether that is ensuring the State has a monopoly on violence, or trying to ban things they don’t like.
That seems like normal conservative stuff to me. No need to call it the “alt-right” which in itself is a normalizing term that provides cover for the conservatives culture warriors that have existed forever.
Yeah I remember using it and you had a bunch of creeps on there that sadly aren’t unique to omegle, but once one site gets a reputation of any kind its hard to beat.
Omegle is a bit of a unique case due to their persistent non-action.
Most places, if people start grooming children or broadcasting child porn, they’ll start banning offenders at the very lest.
Omegle, nah.
At one point, they put a warning splash screen “Careful: there are pedophiles that use this” or something like that, but they took the warning down after a while.
And eventually they did officially say that you can’t use the site if you’re a minor, but of course it was just enforced through the honour system.
Those are literally the only two actions they ever took to address criminal content and behaviour.
Can someone explain in short what problem people had about Omegle?
Was it that you can say things (and show things) there to a random person without any good possibility to trace it back to you because it’s anonymous and more “temporary” then something like Lemmy for example?
Or was it just a witch hunt without any real reasonable structure?
People argue that despite its moderation, it was pretty vulnerable to exploitation and sex abuse
Ok, sounds like the standard claim for everything to me to be honest.
It’s crazy to sometimes stop to think about how many nice things we could have if it wasn’t for pedophiles. Not a joke either, actually give it some thought.
A lot of people also use pedophiles as a basis for their nefarious plans. “Protect the children” is a rallying cry of the alt right, despite how many child rapists exist in the cult.
For sure but there are legit cultural things too that are affected. Say you walk by a playground and a kid falls off a tree or something and hurts himself, you can’t see the kids parents anywhere and consoling him would risk you being perceived as a pervert. For consoling a kid that hurt itself. Like jesus what the fuck
What really? Where do you live? Here in Germany you can get in legal trouble when you see someone in an urgent need for help and you not help.
There is actual law about this. Section 323c of the German Criminal Code https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#p3123
Would failing to deliver CPR be considered a violation of this law?
I guess the correct answer to this is “it depends”…
If the situation is to stressful for you to handle than most probably not. In reality this would be think a court would need to decide on.
Ah yes, the ol’ non-mandatory community hospitality.
That is not restricted to alt-right. That is more of a trope of the centrists and even most capitalist leftists. Alt-right prefers freedom and anonymity without consequences instead, to abuse it and get away with bad deeds.
The “alt-right” never think about the children nor have they done anything with children as an excuse. That was the rallying cry of the “Compassionate Conservatives” and the televangelists who banned video games and rap music in the 90’s and also why you have to click “yes I’m 18” on many websites including lemmy. “Think of the children” is just what authoritarians use as an excuse to push their agenda whether that is ensuring the State has a monopoly on violence, or trying to ban things they don’t like.
What the fuck are you talking about? They’ve definitely been using children as an excuse as they attack libraries. Pay attention.
That seems like normal conservative stuff to me. No need to call it the “alt-right” which in itself is a normalizing term that provides cover for the conservatives culture warriors that have existed forever.
This is the alt right, the modern Conservative Party has been folded into it. There’s no cover, they’re fascists or they support them.
Yeah I remember using it and you had a bunch of creeps on there that sadly aren’t unique to omegle, but once one site gets a reputation of any kind its hard to beat.
Omegle is a bit of a unique case due to their persistent non-action. Most places, if people start grooming children or broadcasting child porn, they’ll start banning offenders at the very lest. Omegle, nah.
At one point, they put a warning splash screen “Careful: there are pedophiles that use this” or something like that, but they took the warning down after a while. And eventually they did officially say that you can’t use the site if you’re a minor, but of course it was just enforced through the honour system.
Those are literally the only two actions they ever took to address criminal content and behaviour.
Nah it’s the degree of creepiness and antisocial attitudes that can come free under the strange mix of anonymity, risk of doxxing and other things
I think those had an effect, though from my brief reading of the post he seems to blame criticism of CSAM prevention and moderation.