I’m anti lax US gun laws btw. But the amount of gun owners to gun deaths/incidents still demonstrates that most are ‘responsible’ owners. Even if I still think far far far too many needless gun incidents happen, it’s not the majority or even vaguely close.
Keep in mind that the vast majority of irresponsible acts do not result in natural consequences out of sheer luck. Like most accidental discharges while cleaning don’t hit another person. Most unsecured firearms don’t result in kids accidentally killing one another.
The level of negligent behavior is much higher than homicide stats would have you believe.
Statistics also say that the self-defense argument is largely bullshit: you’re more likely to harm those closest to you than to defend yourself with a firearm
I’m not defending mass gun ownership at all and was completely clear about that in the initial comment. And I certainly am aware that all people who end up accidentally shooting themselves did not plan to do so… and I never suggested otherwise.
And the majority of nuclear bomb owning nations are the same. Only one country has used them in wartime. 77 years of responsible nuke ownership. That doesn’t mean I want more nations to have them.
And, statistically, they are correct.
I’m anti lax US gun laws btw. But the amount of gun owners to gun deaths/incidents still demonstrates that most are ‘responsible’ owners. Even if I still think far far far too many needless gun incidents happen, it’s not the majority or even vaguely close.
Keep in mind that the vast majority of irresponsible acts do not result in natural consequences out of sheer luck. Like most accidental discharges while cleaning don’t hit another person. Most unsecured firearms don’t result in kids accidentally killing one another.
The level of negligent behavior is much higher than homicide stats would have you believe.
Totally. But is anyone honestly suggesting that over 50% of all owners have had an accidental discharge?
Statistics also say that the self-defense argument is largely bullshit: you’re more likely to harm those closest to you than to defend yourself with a firearm
Yes, I fully agree. It’s well supported with data. As is my statement.
I’m honestly confused how people took my comment to be pro gun at all. I just don’t like misrepresenting data.
A few bad apples spoils the bunch. Y’all ruined it for yourselves.
And 100% of the ones who are wrong own guns.
I’m not sure I understand. Are you trying to say that 100% of irresponsible gun owners are also gun owners? Well, yeah… that’s definitely correct.
Or am I missing something?
The bit about what happens when people who believe themselves to be responsible are wrong.
If you’re just going to defend mass gun ownership at me, waste someone else’s time.
I’m not defending mass gun ownership at all and was completely clear about that in the initial comment. And I certainly am aware that all people who end up accidentally shooting themselves did not plan to do so… and I never suggested otherwise.
Most drivers are responsible drivers.
And the majority of nuclear bomb owning nations are the same. Only one country has used them in wartime. 77 years of responsible nuke ownership. That doesn’t mean I want more nations to have them.
Yes, you are essentially repeating what I said.