• TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Ah yes, as if anarchism, liberalism, libertarianism or really any other human ideology and methodology centered entirely on egoism don’t engender some strange communal cargo cult behavior. It’s almost as though they too are full of shit?

      It is funny to believe in ‘self-determination’ when you can’t even recognize that all the important decisions have already been made for you. It is rich to pretend to fight against the nihilist when you only believe in yourself. So go egoist, live your life as you please, blissfully unaware that you are just as stuck the very herd of individuality that we all find ourselves in.

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              You can be as smug as you want about it, but the people who benefit from capitalism as it exists aren’t just going to let you change things.

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              Sarcasm and posturing? How do you honestly plan to diplomatically redistribute power/wealth without this happening? When has meaningful change ever happened without those in power engaging in violent retaliation against the often peaceful and nonviolent exploited classes? And here you sit and smugly discard all the movements that actually managed to get something done as ‘fascist’ and ‘corporatist’’

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                  Oh my god dude you sound so pathetic right now. If you actually do hold radical left beliefs of any kind and it’s not just a cute online label for you (really doubt that but I’ll give you the benefit of a doubt) go outside, touch some fucking grass, and organize IRL, or at least talk to people IRL about it. We’ve all heard your bullshit “anti tankie” tirades from people like you a thousand times over, you’re not changing any minds and are not impressing anybody with your arguments, I can absolutely guarantee you that.

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      As soon as you have any actual answer on how to demonstrably improve peoples’ lives and do this either within this system in a way that they’ll let you, or without this system in a way that they won’t assassinate you, I’m with you. I’m serious about that. But you don’t have an answer, I already know, because all I see is posturing and arm chair theorizing.

      Edit for Michael Parenti who ofcourse has absolutely amazing things to day on the issue: https://youtu.be/6gtUaGV6mNI?feature=shared

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          At least those people are looking at places where actual revolutions happened and were sustained. Contrary to the US, where unions get busted, action groeps cointelpro-d, leaders assassinated, police violence used, and only the threat of the USSR to gain any social progress. And where QoL is on a steady decline? Please give me a better example.

          Furthermore, historically, no one socialist nation has ever existed without being under continuous attack from those very forces - religious, fascists, corporatists, so I don’t know what your on about. You’re clearly passionate but I read your comments as incredibly idealistic to a fault.

          Edit: and what’s happening now is the very likely possibility of a 2nd Trump administration and this insane 2025 plan they’re cooking up. So I don’t even know where you are getting your information.

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      They’re not leftists - they’re just red-coded fascists.

      The clearest evidence of this is the total disregard for worker enfranchisement and meaningful decommodification.

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      The point of animal farm is “Communists are so shit, they’re almost as bad as capitalists”. Suggesting that Orwell wouldn’t prefer communism to capitalism is simply false.

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      “I support the upcoming American Hitler 2.0 rounding up and elimination of undesirables fascism because a system that forces me to contribute to the healthcare of others is equally bad.”

      Cool story bro