Am I the only one who gets bunch of posts from leftist and even communist subs/circlejerks in their feed? It’s kinda weird to see genzedong and similar popping up in hot/rising feed. This just hopefully some of the growing pains of a new platform.
Am I the only one who gets bunch of posts from leftist and even communist subs/circlejerks in their feed? It’s kinda weird to see genzedong and similar popping up in hot/rising feed. This just hopefully some of the growing pains of a new platform.
Unfortunately it seems really common for any new social media platform to lean way too hard into wither the far left or right, instead of finding a middle ground where a wider range of political views can coexist.
But hey, if we had to pick one extreme, then far left is a lot better than the far right nazi apps that crop up a lot.
They have been a lot of time here, they were here maybe one or two years before the reddit migration. In that scenery, apart from your own arguments against socialism, we can not oppose to that presence in the fediverse, they have been warm to welcome new people, and they are active part of community. We had to deal everyday with far-right in reddit, give yourself the opportunity to know something different.
One or two years? Communists built Lemmy from scratch dude.
Source: I was there.
the middle is necessarily right wing
If the left is “seize the means of production, eat the rich”
and the right “free market, corporations are good, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps”
then the middle would be what? Everything stay the same? if that’s your answer, then the fact that capital ownership is protected under every single system on earth would mean that the middle helps capitalism
if the middle is reformism, then it is an ideology that distracts the working class from actual class war and crates reforms that can be taken away any time at all if the economy is bad, which by now should be clear that that will happen again and again, no matter what we try.
Why do you think rightists never complain about the “political center”, but communists like me always rant about how stupid the idea is? It’s because a centrist is useful to the right wing, and disruptive to everyone else
The middle ground is an open dialogue where people can coexist with opposing views and debate. The fast that you took me as meaning that everyone needed to be some kind of die hard centrist instead of just listening to opposing worldviews for once in your life is a great example of the problem.
I agree, and as other comment mentioned: foss seems to appeal more to the left leaning. It’ll probably get more balanced with time, though not like I want more rightwing circlejerks but that the extremes would get kinda buried under the masses of sane people.
I have no idea why OP is calling them leftists. They’re not.
idk about that, both extremes end up with millions dead.
Are we really still “both siding” this?
You have one side stating that the current social and economic systems cause a lot of people to suffer and die in poverty - maybe we could change the those systems so that the world becomes more fair and fewer people suffer.
While the other side basically says: people we don’t like shouldn’t exist. Let’s make their lives more miserable.
And you think those two positions are the same?
Let’s be fair here, they’re probably talking about the properly far extremes. The Nazis and the communists both killed millions and caused a lot of suffering last century. Horseshoe theory and all that.
Obviously the far left you typically encounter online doesn’t tend to be authoritarian-communist-regime levels of far left, but I feel like people are being a little to hostile to the idea that extreme in general are pretty bad things.
We should always be suspicious when someone starts both-sides’ing Nazis and Communists. Only one side was killing Nazis, after all.
And yet events like the Katyn Massacre come to mind.
Yes, war crimes are bad, but you are a sick puppy, or hopefully just very mistaken, if you think that or any other Soviet atrocities puts the USSR on par with Nazi Germany.
Just because I only referenced on item doesn’t mean there aren’t millions more souls attributable to the USSR. The USSR easily cost more lives in Poland than Hitler/Nazi’s did. Not just because of WW2… but because of the mass murder committed for the next 40 years under USSR rule.
I’m first generation American. My grandfather taught me exactly how it was under Communist rule. I’m far from mistaken and have literally dozens of phone numbers I can call to get a first hand account of it all going all the way back to WW2.
Uh huh, and how many of those “victims of communism” were actually some of the worst people in the world at the time, like Czarists and Nazis? Sorry your grandfather is bitter that he didn’t get the dacha he wanted or whatever.
How reasonable of you. Critical thinking skills provide a person the ability to hold two competing notions in their head. One does not need to win out for critical thoughts of the other to remain. I get annoyed that everyone wants things to be black and white (e.g. Dems good GOP bad). It’s not that simple and we need to stop trying to reduce it to such polar language. The left also has corruption. The corruption in the left has also lead us to this precise point in history. The democratic party was heavily dishonest with primaries during the last Clinton campaign. They intentionally squashed and targeted other democratic candidates.
I wish we would stop ignoring all the problems just because it doesn’t suit a narrative that one side is good and the other is bad. It’s not that simple. One is absolutely worst than the other, but they both need each other to exist. People need to stop pretending like left shit don’t stink. It does because it is also shit. The left is not at all exempt from corruption. All humans are susceptible to corruption, especially humans in positions of power. Views taken to any extreme are almost always bad.
How many people have died as a result of things like preventable diseases, lack of housing, poverty, or unaffordable healthcare as a result of living in a capitalist society? How many people has the USA killed interfering when in foreign nations as part of their war against communists around the world?
Is this something you really want to “both sides”? Only one side kills Nazis.