• Linus Torvalds added hidden tabs to Kconfig to challenge parsers that can’t handle them.
  • Tabs were intentionally added to the common Kconfig file for page sizes to expose faulty parsers.
  • Torvalds believes parsers unable to handle tabs shouldn’t be parsing kernel Kconfig files, aiming to force fixes.
  • palordrolap
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    721 month ago

    The Robustness Principle may seem like little more than a suggestion, but it is the foundation on which many successful things are based.

    To boil it down to meme-level old-school Torvaldsry: Assume everyone else is a f–king idiot who can barely do what they’re supposed to and expect to parse their files / behaviour / trash accordingly.

    If you do not do this, you are, without doubt, one of those f–king idiots everyone else is having to deal with. If you do do this, it does not guarantee that you are not a f–king idiot. Awareness is key.

    Examples where this works: Web browser quirks mode; Driving a car; Measure twice, cut once. This latter one is special because it reveals that often, the f–king idiot you’re trying to deal with is yourself.

    Assume everyone else is worse.

    Fun corollary: In altering his behaviour towards f–king idiots people who should know better, Linus has learned to apply the robustness principle to interpersonal communication.

      • @[email protected]
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        421 month ago

        I don’t understand this either. There’s no fucking algorithm overlord here right? No fucking tiktok, youtube bullshit required.

        If you want to say fuck, fucking say fuck.

        On another note. Thx for introducing me to the robustness principle ♥️

        • palordrolap
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          221 month ago

          Maybe I want to say it without saying it. There’s no rule against doing that, but people somehow think there is - or that there ought to be.

          Most of the time I don’t swear, so it makes me uncomfortable to use the word. There have been and undoubtedly will be exceptions. When the mood takes me. When the word, unfettered, feels right. Today was not that day.

          Funny how the partial omission offends some people more than the original word does. Adapt your parsers.

          • @[email protected]
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            91 month ago

            On the fediverse we do not have to worry about upsetting coka cola or spez because a swear appeared next to their advertisement or name. Not that many people care about that elsewhere, but we especially don’t care about it here. I think that’s worth calling attention to every once in a while. It doesn’t always have to be swears as the vehicle to remind us that the power dynamic is different here.

            It’s fucking nice to be reminded there no corpo overlords here sometimes, though. Which is ironic that sometimes the foss benevolent dictators for life aren’t always benevolent.

            • palordrolap
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              91 month ago

              It’s not about whether other people are willing to accept it. It’s about whether I’m willing to generate it. This is the other half of the principle.

              • @[email protected]
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                41 month ago

                But you still used it, no one’s confused about what word you meant. It’s such an odd line to draw IMO.

                It’s like the “anal doesn’t count as REAL sex” nonsense, but for cussing lol

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 month ago

                  Obviously the semi-censored version isn’t the same - otherwise you wouldn’t be talking about it. And the author has told you that it was a stylistic choice to use that different version. That’s enough, isn’t it? And judging by the reactions here, apparently the semi-censored version is even more hard-hitting than the full word!

                  Swearing is used for emphasis and to invoke a reaction. The attention it has brought here seems to show that it has invoked a reaction and captured people’s attention. Maybe that drawing of attention means it was fit for purpose - or maybe not. In any case, it was the choice of the author to do it like that.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    21 month ago

                    Of course they can do whatever they want, it just looks juvenile.

                    “I don’t wanna cuss so I self-semi-censor the words” is still just cussing. It’s a weird lie about something that doesn’t matter, just fucking cuss or use a different word if you don’t like cussing.

            • @[email protected]
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              81 month ago

              Oh, BS. You don’t have to worry about swearing on Reddit either. Yes, reddit sucks, but the censoring of words on there isn’t like TikTok.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 month ago

              Yeah though I have to admit I like it when people self censor because I imagine them like a cute Ned Flanders all flustered ‘well dang diddly h - e - double C!’

              But yeah it’s nice that platform’s exist simply for people to express themselves rather than to serve as vehicles for advertising. I’ll say fuck to celebrate that!

      • @[email protected]
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        201 month ago

        Sometimes it works well as a stylistic choice. It’s not pretending not to use a bad word, but rather drawing attention to the fact that you’re deliberately being a little bit naughty with a wink to the reader. It’s like the absurdity of what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      Robustness Principle

      It’s a principle for brittleness. First you get implementation-defined behaviour, then bug-compatible software.