Welp… this post just confirmed to me what I’ve been suspecting about a friend I’ve been distancing myself from for years. I didn’t realize they call themselves “nationals,” so he’s definitely a sovcit of the “moorish” variety based on a few things he’s said. Progressively more and more fucking exhausting to talk to over the last ten years with the woo woo moronic shit and this is the most recent nonsense.
Definitely a sovcit. Some of them are Moorish Temple adherents, usually they are black. Others call themselves American state nationals or sometimes secured party creditors. Or private citizens is another one.
He is black, and I’m guessing moorish temple based on his comments and other things he’s dabbled in. Most of what he dabbles in has roots in black nationalism that I recognize. Funnily enough, there’s occasional veiled nazi shit I think he’s unaware of, though given the far right nature of it all, I’m not surprised his uninformed ass stumbles across them. What is also strange, I do not think he harbors racial hate, though he may have some homo/transphobia. I’m not entirely sure because I’m not interested in listening to that shit. Though it would fit with the far right pipeline.
Sovereign citizens began in a white supremacy group known as Christian Identity in the 1970s so that’s not at all a surprise to me. Sovcits are also HUGELY antisemitic and hate LGBT people. Your friend definitely sounds like he fits to me. He’s probably in some of the Facebook groups I’m in as some of them are Moorish.
He was permanently banned from Facebook last year, lol. Idk what he did, but he has asked me to create an account for him to eventually take over because I don’t have one. I flatly refused and expressed that it is probably best for him anyway. The LGBT hate is definitely an interesting turn for this particular guy, known him twenty years, but given the slow spiral I’ve watched, I’m not surprised. Last time we talked, he mentioned “learning more history,” but he quickly followed it up with “but I’m done trying to convince people” before I could respond. I wanted to ask if that was a promise, goddamn.
I dont think I could spend the time interacting with these folks like you do, I get so aggravated and exhausted with folks like this. If you have ran into him saying dumb shit, I’m sorry, lol.
I have an interest in right wing extremists is why I’m in there, I also have infiltrated all the Nazis of Facebook with my fake account and regularly pass along information to my FBI contact re their activity. Sovcits are just an amusing diversion in extremism for me because nothing they ever do works out for them ever but the ways they try are always hilarious.
Ha, that’s awesome. Good work. I encounter these types because of some of my hobbies, and I can only handle them so much. I ensure my own opinions are known when this shit comes up and that I’m not interested in their dumbfuck opinions, but it gets exhausting exerting this constantly. The cat I’m talking about wasn’t like that back in the day, though. When I met him, he was an anarchist (borderline crust) punk who was accepting of pretty much anyone except nazis. Interesting the paths folks take in life.
Welp… this post just confirmed to me what I’ve been suspecting about a friend I’ve been distancing myself from for years. I didn’t realize they call themselves “nationals,” so he’s definitely a sovcit of the “moorish” variety based on a few things he’s said. Progressively more and more fucking exhausting to talk to over the last ten years with the woo woo moronic shit and this is the most recent nonsense.
Definitely a sovcit. Some of them are Moorish Temple adherents, usually they are black. Others call themselves American state nationals or sometimes secured party creditors. Or private citizens is another one.
He is black, and I’m guessing moorish temple based on his comments and other things he’s dabbled in. Most of what he dabbles in has roots in black nationalism that I recognize. Funnily enough, there’s occasional veiled nazi shit I think he’s unaware of, though given the far right nature of it all, I’m not surprised his uninformed ass stumbles across them. What is also strange, I do not think he harbors racial hate, though he may have some homo/transphobia. I’m not entirely sure because I’m not interested in listening to that shit. Though it would fit with the far right pipeline.
Sovereign citizens began in a white supremacy group known as Christian Identity in the 1970s so that’s not at all a surprise to me. Sovcits are also HUGELY antisemitic and hate LGBT people. Your friend definitely sounds like he fits to me. He’s probably in some of the Facebook groups I’m in as some of them are Moorish.
He was permanently banned from Facebook last year, lol. Idk what he did, but he has asked me to create an account for him to eventually take over because I don’t have one. I flatly refused and expressed that it is probably best for him anyway. The LGBT hate is definitely an interesting turn for this particular guy, known him twenty years, but given the slow spiral I’ve watched, I’m not surprised. Last time we talked, he mentioned “learning more history,” but he quickly followed it up with “but I’m done trying to convince people” before I could respond. I wanted to ask if that was a promise, goddamn.
Probably means Black’s law dictionary which is their favourite tome of crazy laws they refer to. I probably have ran across him in my sovcit travels.
I dont think I could spend the time interacting with these folks like you do, I get so aggravated and exhausted with folks like this. If you have ran into him saying dumb shit, I’m sorry, lol.
I have an interest in right wing extremists is why I’m in there, I also have infiltrated all the Nazis of Facebook with my fake account and regularly pass along information to my FBI contact re their activity. Sovcits are just an amusing diversion in extremism for me because nothing they ever do works out for them ever but the ways they try are always hilarious.
Ha, that’s awesome. Good work. I encounter these types because of some of my hobbies, and I can only handle them so much. I ensure my own opinions are known when this shit comes up and that I’m not interested in their dumbfuck opinions, but it gets exhausting exerting this constantly. The cat I’m talking about wasn’t like that back in the day, though. When I met him, he was an anarchist (borderline crust) punk who was accepting of pretty much anyone except nazis. Interesting the paths folks take in life.