• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      With what? Putin’s 50 year old nukes maintained by black market scalpers?! Putin only knows how to bluff. Letting him get away with it is how we end up with conservatives dominating the normal people globally. We have to fight back, not kiss his ass. Letting the enemy continue to grow stronger is unwise.

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        9 months ago

        I like how you are certain enough about the state of Russia’s nuclear armament to bet the lives of everyone on the continent on it. People said the same things about all of the tanks Russia had in storage, but they’re bringing them online and putting them in action in the Ukrainian theater just fine.

        Even if 90% of the nuclear arsenal is inoperative, more than enough remains to reduce the world to cinders. Even if we assume high levels of corruption throughout the Russian army, a 90% failure rate would be outrageously high. Sure, Russia is never as strong as they claim to be. Their capacity is almost certainly exaggerated. But the idea that not a single of Russia’s nuclear weapons would successfully detonate on target is hopium to the highest degree.

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          9 months ago

          He’s already telling Europe to kneel against the wall while he loads his gun. Not fighting back while he’s preparing his weapon is just letting him do it.

          People talk about all the lives that could be lost by attacking him, but the lives saved will be much greater. He is preparing to oppress Europe and kill all who resist. U S. conservatives support Putin’s goals. If they hold any power when Putin is ready to push, there will be no help from the U.S.

          Being on the defense will be much more costly than forcing his moves now and keeping the fighting on Russian soil.

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        9 months ago

        Are you so certain of that that it’s worth risking the slaughter of almost everyone in Europe and North America?

        We’re not talking about a £10 bet on the horses here, mate, we’re talking billions of lives being on the line.

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          9 months ago

          So it was said Russia will take Ukraine in three days, then two weeks. It’s been a bit from then.

          How do you expect Russia to take on NATO, which is far far bigger and more prepared?

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            9 months ago

            We aren’t talking about taking on, we’re talking about Russia launching thousands of nukes in retaliation to an invasion.

            Maybe you don’t know, but that’s fairly different to the kind of boots on the ground fighting going on in Ukraine.

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              9 months ago

              How did I reply to you? I swear I was replying to a different comment.

              Sorry about that. You are absolutely correct.