With five major OS ugrades and eight years of patches.

Fairphone’s latest repairable device is for people who hate saying goodbye to an old smartphone more than they like buying a new one.

  • sudneo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4015·
    9 months ago

    They have literally an explanation for this on their website. You might disagree, but saying “it makes no sense”…makes no sense.

    Also, they discontinued the earbuds and still no jack on FP5, so the idea that “they wanted to sell their own buds” doesn’t seem to be likely.

    • Mannimarco@lemmy.worldEnglish
      342·
      9 months ago

      It makes no sense to me, their whole deal is sustainability, by removing the headphone jack it forces me to buy Bluetooth headphones that all have batteries in them and are presumably not up to Fairphone standards of sustainability.

      And saying we’re just following market trends sounds like a shitty explanation to me. I have the 3, I’ll use it for as long as it works but after that no Fairphone for me.

      • sudneo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        Our starting point for design is longevity, which means making our devices more repairable, a very different approach to the electronics industry standard. To support maximum longevity and because of the IP rating, Fairphone 4 does not feature a headphone jack. In the end, it comes down to how we make a product that lasts for at least five years. We needed to eliminate as many vulnerabilities as possible, and the headphone jack is subject to dust and water ingress over time.

        Again, you might disagree, you might know better, I don’t know. But this is their motivation when it comes to longevity and hence sustainability. To me, it seems a reasonable idea: if the jack helps reducing the consumption of batteries in headphones but decreases the lifespan of the phones, it seems a bad tradeoff.

      • EngineerGaming@feddit.nlEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        Even after switching to a wireless headset (because the previous ones all broke at the wire), I would rather not use a device with no headphone jack. My headset has a very long battery life and can apparently have its battery changed fairly easily (big enough to be held together by screws). But neither of this can be said about earbuds, so my earbuds are staying wired.

      • Kayn@dormi.zoneEnglish
        1421·
        9 months ago

        USB-C earbuds exist. No one is “forcing” you to do anything.

        • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          25·
          9 months ago

          Which is still having to buy a second set of earbuds/headphones when there’s no need for it. Or buy a separate dongle (a major pain in the ass over time).

          This is not “sustainability” friendly design.

        • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
          72·
          9 months ago

          Having tried to use USB-C earbuds… the experience is lacking. Once they are plugged in there is a 2-5s lag for when the headphones start working. 30% of the time they don’t work, having to unplug and plug them in to try again. Some apps won’t use them at all if the headphones are not plugged in before you start a call (google voice).

          Even if you got them working, they stick out of the bottom of the phone, so propping up the phone on a desk for a video call is now super awkward.

          It’s a poor echo of the experience of physically wired RTTP headphones.

          • axo@feddit.deEnglish
            41·
            9 months ago

            Never had those problems. Worked for me better than the AUX port actually, since no metal spring got damaged over time like in most of my previous phones.

            The dongle works just like AUX earphones worked

        • TwoCubed@feddit.deEnglish
          3·
          9 months ago
          • can’t charge the phone when the USB port is in use
          • can’t use the aux input of any external devices
          • can’t use the headphones with anything else
          • shitty experience as someone else here mentioned
          • …

          I like my Pixel 7 Pro but its also my first phone without a headphone jack and I hate it. Bluetooth is such a shitty standard and the USB dongles suck ass too. Why the fuck did they have to get rid of something so simple and practical…

        • SheeEttinEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          And USB-C-to-3.5mm adapters too, so you can continue using your preferred listening device.

          Yes, it does mean you can’t also plug in a USB cable at the same time, but that seems like a very rare use case to me. If you really want to do that, you can also get a USB hub that has a power input port.