• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Then you get full fascism

      When 40% of the voting population wants fascism those are your options.

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        8 months ago

        If 40% of the voting population wants fascism your democracy is fucked and its time to re-open gulags.

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          “Don’t like fascism? Lock up your political enemies. Problem solved.”

          The answer isn’t even voting. Voting is actually important in this scenario because, yes, you are actually voting to keep fascists from the door.

          The actual answer isn’t electoralism at all—even if it’s important to avert the worst case scenario.

          The answer is withholding what’s most valuable to them: your labor. General strike with a clearly defined goal and a pissed off populace is literally the most powerful tool we can harness.

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            Liberals will get people killed before you could organize a general strike. Quit being naive.

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              lol love it. Every single time without fail, people will find an excuse for why iT WoULd jUsT nEVeR wOrK HErE!

              Although I will admit I haven’t heard this one before. Kudos for being original I guess?

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                It’s called history. Look in south america lmao if you guys go left, the US will coup you. You can try. Good luck

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                  This is such insane logic.

                  “People will fight against you if you stand up for yourself. What are you thinking?”

                  Your suggestion is…what exactly? Don’t try to fight for what’s right because it comes with a cost? I just don’t understand people.

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                    No don’t get me wrong I wish that could happen and I’d be all for it. My point is that if you’re waiting for that while voting for liberals, you might wait a while. But you’re right, I am being defeatist. Take care <3

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                You’ve never heard of strike breakers? Pinkertons? Battle of Blair Mountain?

                I mean that’s just your own ignorance at this point

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                  “You’ve never heard of water? Why would you start a fire?”

                  What kind of logic is that?

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                    I’m not saying he’s right, I’m saying it’s absurd that you’ve never heard of the battles against unions in the US.

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                  Okay, so we agree that gulags are off the table, and you also think a general strike is off the table. I ask you again, what alternative solution are you offering?

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                    Look I am all for direct action and passive resistance. My point is that the liberals are not going to help.

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            Fascism isn’t the opposite of voting. Words have meaning. Open an history book once in a while.

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            Ah yes, the horseshoe theory. Hitler came in power because liberals sided with him instead of the communists. Exactly like the current American democratic party would rather side with fascists than mere socialism. They proved it time and time again. Libs and fascists are too face of the same coin lol