• tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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    9 months ago

    I disagree that it actually talks about the “ethical philosophy.” Basically either you join the echo chamber saying that there are no ethical problems with piracy, or you’re downvoted to oblivion. The responses are along the lines of “idc, I want free stuff.” That makes the discussion redundant and uninteresting.

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      9 months ago

      Piracy is good actually; the only people who disagree are squares who will never own capital of their own, and actual capitalist leeches

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      9 months ago

      because the flipside is companies wanting to nickel and dime you to oblivion for a subpar piece of media, or even hardware these days.

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        We’re talking about whether the community has a nuanced discussion about the ethics of piracy or not. What you said just now is another attempt at a false dichotomy, so if you’re trying to represent the community you’re kind of proving my point.

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          9 months ago

          im presenting you with a simple, common but strong argument for it.

          you can choose to engage with it with nuance or, apparently, attack me.

          you won’t agree with every set of ideals out there, that doesn’t mean it isnt tought out.

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            9 months ago

            Your argument is not relevant to anything I said. So I don’t want to engage with it because it derails the discussion here, which is not about the ethics of piracy but about the community’s openness to discussing it.

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              9 months ago

              yes it is. you just dont want to have that discussion.

              the community will rightfully shun people parroting the copyrights holders arguments and bad faith arguing, because thats not the place to be if you hate piracy.

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                9 months ago

                They can do whatever they want, it’s their community. Just don’t tell me there’s a nuanced discussion going on there.

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                    9 months ago

                    I did engage multiple times in that community, when it was on topic. I eventually learned that there was no point in doing so.

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        9 months ago

        Some people have to jump through a lot of moral hoops to justify piracy instead of accepting there could be any possible bad points about it