• nifty@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I am not saying this phenomena doesn’t exist! I am saying that not all women who have higher pitched voices relative to average women’s voices are doing it for fundie reasons. I am saying these women naturally have that voice

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      9 months ago

      That’s not the points being made in the this thread though. It’s that Katie is intentionally changing her voice for manipulative purposes to meet ends that most folks on this thread disagree with. So I think the criticism is completely valid. There are times when even progressives have double standards about things like body shaming those on the other side but 1 this isn’t that and 2 a lot of times that’s rooted in hitting those people in areas that will affect them.

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        9 months ago

        I mean, I get that and don’t condone it.

        But what happens when someone says that all women who talk like that have the same intentions as Britt?

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          9 months ago

          A key point is that she changes her natural way of speaking, and it’s not just a higher pitch, but ‘breathy’ and softer. If someone is always talking like that naturally you wouldn’t assume they were being manipulative.

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            9 months ago

            If someone is always talking like that naturally you wouldn’t assume they were being manipulative.

            Yes, true. I think that’s the important part. I just don’t want regular women to be a victim of “oh I heard her real voice don’t ya know!”. That’s unfortunately how society works, people use any dimension against a perceived enemy for any reason, including petty social or sexual jealousy.

            I think part of feminist ideals is mitigating all attack vectors related to physical attributes of women, and that includes their voices (and yes, I know! These conservative fakers are putting on a front for duplicitous reason).

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              9 months ago

              Yeah that is a good point, women are scrutinized enough as it is, the idea of this voice being a thing would make me anxious if I sounded like that naturally hah.