I hope this isn’t out of context, also I don’t want to “own the libs” or something here, I’m actually interested.

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    9 months ago

    But for the 99% of everyone else who don’t deal with mountain lions and coyotes on a frequent basis, children are being killed every day by guns.

    Your mountain lions aren’t even close to the same level of threat as the millions of people with guns causing thousands of preventable deaths every year. Mountain lions are avoidable. A gun shot isn’t.

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      9 months ago

      So are my children less valuable than other kids? Or is there not a one size fits all approach, no black and white solution?

      If you look at the stats, a majority of gun deaths are suicide (54% is the number I pulled up just now but it fluctuates, I want to say I’ve seen it as high as 60%).

      Rather than focusing on banning ARs, let’s focus on red flag laws. This protects the suicidal as well as the what I think is second biggest category (having a hard time finding stats), victims of domestic violence. Rolling them out in more places, and improving the laws and enforcement where they are.

      Also safe storage laws. If you own a gun and you have a child that will be near that gun, you damn better have it secured at all times. This shouldn’t be controversial.

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        9 months ago

        So are my children less valuable than other kids?

        Of course that’s not what I mean.

        But everything you describe are just bandaid solutions that won’t solve the problem.

        Getting guns, all guns, out of the hands of citizens will help reduce suicides, protect domestic violence victims, and effectively eliminate the deaths resulting from misuse of firearms because they won’t have them in the first place.

        The exceptions should be certain hunting rifles only if you meet extremely stringent criteria and remain limited to a certain number of round purchases per year. Those requirements could very easily include stipulations about dangerous wildlife in your area.

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          9 months ago

          Getting guns, all guns, out of the hands of citizens

          I don’t think this is

          • realistic
          • necessary
          • desirable

          There are about 50k deaths a year due to guns. That is a lot and we should try to prevent as many as we can. But consider this. There are about 300 million guns legally owned. That’s 0.0167% of guns involved in a death.

          Interesting this isnt that different than car statistics ~40k deaths with 260 million cars owned.

          Now no cars without special dispensation doesn’t sound like the worst thing to me, but it also doesn’t sound realistic or all that great without like transporter technology.