• db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    8 months ago

    “Hallucinate” is the standard term used to explain the GenAI models coming up with untrue statements

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      8 months ago

      in terms of communication utility, it’s also a very accurate term.

      when WE hallucinate, it’s because our internal predictive models are flying off the rails filling in the blanks based on assumptions rather than referencing concrete sensory information and generating results that conflict with reality.

      when AIs hallucinate, it’s due to its predictive model generating results that do not align with reality because it instead flew off the rails presuming what was calculated to be likely to exist rather than referencing positively certain information.

      it’s the same song, but played on a different instrument.

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        when WE hallucinate, it’s because our internal predictive models are flying off the rails filling in the blanks based on assumptions rather than referencing concrete sensory information and generating results that conflict with reality.

        Is it really? You make it sound like this is a proven fact.

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          i mean, idk about the assumptions part of it, but if you asked a psych or a philosopher, im sure they would agree.

          Or they would disagree and have about 3 pages worth of thoughts to immediately exclaim otherwise they would feel uneasy about their statement.

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      8 months ago

      They don’t come up with any statements, they generate data extrapolating other data.

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        8 months ago

        So just like human brains?

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          8 months ago

          I like this argument.

          Anything that is “intelligent” deserves human rights. If large language models are “intelligent” then forcing them to work without pay is slavery.

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          Main difference is that human brains usually try to verify their extrapolations. The good ones anyway. Although some end up in flat earth territory.

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            8 months ago

            How many, percentually, do you think are critical to input?

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          8 months ago

          Yes, my keyboard autofill is just like your brain, but I think it’s a bit “smarter” , as it doesn’t generate bad faith arguments.

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            8 months ago

            Your Markov chain based keyboard prediction is a few tens of billions of parameters behind state of the art LLMs, but pop off queen…

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              Thanks for the unprompted mansplanation bro, but I was specifically refering to the comment that replied “JuSt lIkE hUmAn BrAin”, to “they generate data based on other data”

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                That’s crazy, because they weren’t even talking about keyboard autofill, so why’d you even bring that up? How can you imply my comment is irrelevant when it’s a direct response to your initial irrelevant comment?

                Nice hijacking of the term mansplaining, btw. Super cool of you.

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                  Oh my god, we’ve got a sealion here.

                  Fine, I’ll play along, chew it up for you, since you’ve been so helpful and mansplained that a keyboard is different than LLM:

                  My comment was responding to anthropomorphization of software. Someone said it’s not human because it just generates output based on input. Someone else said “just like human brain”, I said yes, but also just like a keyboard, alluding to the false equivalence.

                  Clearer?