• HowManyNimons@lemmy.world
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    8 个月前

    The woman on the floor is thinking about all the gay people she screamed at about God’s wrath, and all the beatings she took from her husband because he was the Head of her, and all of the time and money she wasted on the church, and all of the beatings she let her husband give to her kids lest she “spoil the child,” and all of the bs she swallowed from Republicans, and all of the shame she carried for masturbating, and all of the abuse she hurled at women outside abortion clinics, and all.of the children she’d terrified at Sunday School, and all of the things she never tried because someone had told her not to.

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      I kid you not, all that kind of personal history creates a massive sunk cost fallacy that will make it impossible for them to admit that they may possibly be wrong.

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            The person who replied to you went on a rant about voting. Which I agree, religious people tend to vote against their interests. But spending 3 paragraphs talking about voting and nothing else doesn’t really elaborate on why it’s a shit lifestyle does it? I’ll add what I think are the worst aspects of a religious lifestyle.

            The biggest issue with a religious lifestyle, in my opinion, is the fact that truly believing in a religion, especially a deity means you have been convinced, and are able to convince yourself to believe in something for which there is no evidence (ive heard religious arguments that faith is a “radical” belief in something that defies logic). The concept of God, for the most part, isn’t that bad. The issue is, if you’ve let in one truth about your life that you believe is true despite any supporting evidence and no logical reason, that opens the door for more random beliefs that aren’t founded on evidence. Or more accurately, they may believe new things (good or bad) for one reason or another but the idea that something needs evidence or solid reasoning to be believed doesn’t factor into their calculations nearly as much.

            This means that a religious lifestyle is random, based on where and how they were raised with an ethos of not questioning their foundational beliefs. This means many religious communities grow up fine, and it means many grow up in the bizarre bigoted looney-tunes world I’m sure you’ve seen if you know religious people from disparate backgrounds.

            Idk exactly what that person necessarily meant, but to me, a lifestyle based on beliefs that the person has been trained not to question and doesn’t need evidence to be true is kind of shit.

            And in before people say that not all (or even most) religious people are like that. I agree that a religious person could easily be raised as someone who engages in logical reasoning and only accepts new beliefs if they think they have sufficient evidence etc. That’s probably true. I’m explaining why I think religion opens the door to a shit lifestyle because of religion.

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            Religious people might be polite, might even do good things, but they vote for people who do terrible things. Ideally, the whole thing would be done away with. Convincing people to reject facts and vote their feelings is never a gpod combo.

            If religious people recused themselves from voting, I wouldn’t care much. But they’re dragging our country down. They’re gullible tools of awful rich men. They fight any forms of progress.

            And yeah yeah you’re about to tell me about your aunt Maple who isn’t like that, she’s really lovely and doesn’t preach at you and just likes going to church for the social element. But who does she vote for??

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              Being religious doesn’t mean you vote for Trump. Thinking that way just encourages them.

              Plenty of religious people actually vote for the person more likely to feed the hungry, liberate the captive, take care of the earth, etc. You know, the way the Bible teaches.

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                  Only if your view of “religious” is limited to white Evangelical Protestants.

                  But most people have a broader worldview than that.

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                    White evangelical Protestants are an extremely numerous and extremely politically active denomination in the US. If they’re not a majority of religious people, they’re at least a plurality.