• TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    Lets try this again- direct quotes from the FBI:

    FBI investigators did find that cells of protesters, including followers of the far-right Oath Keepers and Proud Boys groups, had aimed to break into the Capitol, but they found no evidence that the groups had serious plans about what to do if they made it inside, the sources said.”

    “Three years after thousands of people violently attacked the U.S. Capitol and assaulted law enforcement officers in an unsuccessful attempt to block our democracy’s peaceful transfer of power,”

    “Considering the democrats have done this many times. It’s seems odd to have so many years over it.”

    Honestly if I had my way, outright false information like this would be ban worthy.

    Additionally:

    “We don’t remove comments when they are talking about the topic.”

    The mod log from this thread disproves that.

    • Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      8 months ago

      but they found no evidence that the groups had serious plans about what to do if they made it inside, the sources said. That doesn’t mean the definition of an insurrection by law.

      Honestly if I had my way, outright false information like this would be ban worthy

      It isn’t false. I can show many times the democrats have done it but you’ll just ignore it. Just like you ignored the previous example.

      The mod log from this thread disproves that. I never have deleted someone talking about the topic and not breaking the rules.

      • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        It isn’t false. I can show many times the democrats have done it but you’ll just ignore it.

        Because youre not making real comparisons. You compared two politicians protesting because of SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, to thousands of people literally breaking into the capital to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. Making that comparison undermines you credibility to an almost comical extent, and makes it impossible to take any other statement you make seriously.

        • Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          8 months ago

          You compared two politicians protesting because of SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, to thousands of people literally breaking into the capital to prevent the peaceful transfer of power

          It is either an insurrection or it isn’t. And thousands didn’t break in to stop a transfer of power. It’s hard to take you serious when you just make things up.

          How many people were charged with insurrection ? You think thousands were charged and convicted of insurrection ? Show me where thousands were charged and convicted for insurrection.

          • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            Jesus christ…

            "“Three years after thousands of people violently attacked the U.S. Capitol and assaulted law enforcement officers in an unsuccessful attempt to block our democracy’s peaceful transfer of power,"

            "thousands of people violently attacked the U.S. Capitol and assaulted law enforcement officers in an unsuccessful attempt to block our democracy’s peaceful transfer of power,

            an unsuccessful attempt to block our democracy’s peaceful transfer of power

            Show me where thousands were charged and convicted for insurrection.

            Lets look at the numbers, shall we?
            Number of people charged, federal: 1,346
            Number of people who have pleaded guilty: 797
            Number of individuals who have had jury, bench, or stipulated bench trials: 193
            Number with mixed verdicts: 54
            Number convicted on all charges: 136
            Number acquitted of all charges: 3
            Number of people sentenced: 827
            Percentage of people sentenced who have received prison time: 64
            Median sentence for those who received prison time, in days: 180
            Number of cases dismissed, federal: 10

            • Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              8
              ·
              8 months ago

              How many were charged with insurrection. You are claiming it was one. It shouldn’t be that hard to show how many were charged. That would be a big deal.

              Last time I saw, it was zero. Zero people were charged for insurrection or rebellion. Zero.

              Riot type charges were the most common that I’ve seen.

              • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                8 months ago

                Two points:

                1. You are focusing on a very specific detail, someone being charged specifically with “insurrection”-which isn’t at all how this works-and using it as a tool to dismiss every piece of evidence in front of you. This is the type of rhetoric that undermines your credibility and makes you look pedantic and ignorant.

                2. 54 people have been charged with conspiracy. I suggest you look at the article provided, it will give you not just the number of charges, but who, what charge, a description of exactly what the charge was, etc.

                Through the power of literacy, we can grow together

                • Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  Conspiracy means they talked about it and took an action. It means they did not do the crime.

                  What makes you look silly is being scared of something that didn’t happen. It it’s pedantic to say it’s not an insurrection if nobody was charged for it. No one was even charged with it.

                  It was a riot. Nothing more. I’ve never said they shouldn’t be charged or they were moral in what they did.

                  It was a bunch of idiots for the most part that got caught up in the moment. They should be punished lightly expect the few who had greater plans. Those should get strong charges.

                  While I dislike Biden and he’s a threat to our country. He isn’t a large enough threat to revolt over.

                  • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    5
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    What makes you look silly is being scared of something that didn’t happen

                    On live tv bro. It happened right in front of all of us. You’re absolutely delusional.