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      7 months ago

      I think it’s up to Ukraine to decide if they want to defend themselves or not and they have obviously selected defense.

      Russia is the aggressor and is solely responsible for the deaths in this case.

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          Yes very unfortunate but Russia is no better.

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            7 months ago

            That’s pure nonsense given that this is not happening in Russia. Maybe stop guzzling propaganda and start engaging with reality.

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                Comparing convicts to nabbing people off the street exposes your intellectual dishonesty. However, the fact is that Russia isn’t even doing that anymore. They literally have people volunteering. You should follow your own advice and stop projecting. Everything I’ve been saying about this conflict for the past two years is becoming increasingly obviously true. Meanwhile, people who have been peddling western propaganda are looking like clowns at this point. The fact that you lack any capacity for self reflection is just amazing.

                Maybe ask yourself how is it that Russia isn’t collapsing like you were promised, that Russian economy is outperforming the west, that Russian army is becoming stronger than NATO. This all being openly discussed by the same western media that said all those things would happen. Yet, here you are bleating about Russian propaganda.

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                  None of that really matters when Russia is the one that is invading a foreign country and killing its citizens. Funny how all of you keep ignoring that or you just recite the Russian government propaganda.

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                    Russia doesn’t share your assumption that it is a foreign country. That assumption is rather limited to English propaganda, and Russia hasn’t invested much resources in countering institutional propaganda in the English world - they don’t need to fight a pointless war at that front.

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                    It matters a whole lot actually because this a proxy war between NATO and Russia. NATO is just as responsible for what’s happening, and in fact we now know that it was the west that intervened to stop negotiations in Istanbul that could’ve stopped the war back in 2022. Bleating about Russian propaganda isn’t going to change the facts of the situation.

                    What I recite is what mainstream western media openly says now, and if you claim that’s Russian propaganda then you’re exposing yourself as a troll.

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        So the 15000 civilian deaths caused by Ukraine bombing its own provinces before Russia intervened, the constant efforts by Russia to resolve the issue diplomatically, the naked refusal of the West to even engage with Russia, the West openly backing a fascist coup in Ukraine, and then arming it with the explicit dictate of provoking Russia, the West pressuring Ukraine to not accept the generous settlement offered by Russia in May after the war started, all that doesn’t count?

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        7 months ago

        Ukraine decided. To vote a comedian to a serious office.
        They were probably hoping for a comedy, but what they have got is a tragedy.

        Russia is doing what it had promised to do in its earlier agreements with Ukraine. It can’t be blamed if the electorate in another country doesn’t take things seriously.

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          Russia falling on its face, as an aggressor in this invasion, to a country ran by a comedian really helps to put context to Russia’s decline. They basically shot themselves in the foot and if there weren’t lives being lost, it’d be fairly comedic.

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          Please provide sources for the agreement that says “please invade me and kill lots of our citizens if we ever elect a former comedian as a president”