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Make sense. In its inception, capitalism was putting work as the source of value creation. Rental is about asking money while nothing is produced.
The message is all confusing today because the people talking about the value of hard work are actually the ones who want to get huge returns from investment while paying as little as possible for the work done. Their end goal is to avoid working themeselves. Smith would despise them just the same.
Capitalism is based on the theoretical right of ownership in an era where only feudal aristocrats could own anything, in the present day and age many people in a capitalist society own their home and primary mode of transport and there isn’t a law per-se that restricts anyone from even being allowed to own a home or car or horse or whatever other than being under aged.
The next step is the degree to which that right should be that you can in theory own a home, vs the right to own a home in fact. IE, the equality of opportunity vs the equality of outcomes. This is another dimension in which class struggle is in fact intersectional with identity politics, as that same equality of opportunity vs equality of outcomes struggle is what defines a lot of modern race and gender relation conflicts in the present day, or at least what did before the right decided to drag us all kicking and screaming back to the 50s, the 1850s.
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Capitalism is feudalism with a marketing team.
Land/capital shouldn’t be more important than people. Economies are supposed to be lowly tool of a society to maximize the equitable and efficient distribution of goods and services within a society for the benefit of the citizens of said society, not a few thousand sociopath families at most of society’s expense as it is.
Our society (the US in my case, but increasingly the entire west) literally lives in perpetual servitude to one of its broken tools. A catastrophe should have leaders coming out saying they’ll take every measure to protect their people and society, not their fucking economy and it’s quarterly private profit expectations.
The innovation of capitalism is that the right to own land or other capital assets isn’t an exclusive right of the aristocracy. There is no law in letter which says you cannot ever own a home, and that is a new thing in the west. The next capitalist innovation was that you don’t have to own something to have the rights of people who do own things, which was unheard of prior to the liberal capitalist revolutions of the 1700s and 1800s.
It’s important to understand that things we take for granted in the present day did not always exist, nor are they necessarily guaranteed to keep existing unless specific effort is made to prevent them from being destroyed by the forces that want to go back, in today’s day and age, that being the emerging class of inheritance billionaires who through various means are acquiring more and more outsized political power as well as more and more outsized ownership of resources, creating an in fact reversal of the liberal reforms of the feudal system which even Marx hailed as a huge and essential step in the right direction for the era it happened in.
These things did not happen because of capitalism. These things happened despite capitalism.
Not even Marx would agree with this statement.
You are not permanently tied to your landlord, nor is your landlord your judge and president. You don’t usually work for your landlord, either.
Capitalism is different. It still sucks and exists because of the squeezing out of surplus value. It isn’t feudalism.
As for economies being lowly tools, they’re not. They’re quite literally the most important part of society. They’re how we eat, drink, and survive. Unfortunately we live in a class society, and have done so ever since a couple of dudes during the dawn of agriculture started racketeering. As a result, “a few thousand sociopath families” have distributed resources in their own favour for a very long time, and will continue to do so until class society and the state are abolished.
That’s what’s wild- Adam Smith has been totally whitewashed by modern capitalists. They want to believe he is the exact opposite of Karl Marx, but their boy actually has many similarities with Karl that they choose to ignore. Kinda like how they ignore the parts of Jesus’s teachings that don’t vibe with their free markets and guns for all.
Yep. He had a lot to say about social welfare, how horrible poverty was, how shitty monopolies are etc.
I don’t really want to rehab Adam Smith or crapitalism but when even the poster boy for the scholarly justifications for this system would be like “excuse me, what the fuck?” maybe alarm bells should be ringing?
Georgism ❤️
“Capitalism has this HUGE THING in common with COMMUNISM! Your MAGAt hat (made in Jina!) will Never Be The Same!”
/checkmate
horseshoe theory deniers in shambles.
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Well for Adam landlords immediately demonstrated the concept of capitalists being bad at capitalism.
It’s less that Capitalists are bad at Capitalism, and more that Capitalism contains within it contradictions that lead to its own demise.
All systems will be morphed by the powerful to secure their power
To eliminate the problem you must eliminate greed which hasn’t seemed to work out considering it’s a sin
Okay… What is your proposed plan to fix this problem?
let LAND_PRIVATE_OWNERSHIP = False
Obviously… reactionaries these days aren’t even trying. smh my head.
That… Isn’t exactly a “plan”. Can you elaborate on how we will get there?
Right click the society, select open directory, locate the society.config file, right click and edit it. Set the variable there.
Do I have to spell everything out?
Very funny.
I guess I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to change things, instead of just bitching and making memes on the internet. That’s on me.
Maybe you should read a few books instead of antagonistically demanding to be educated in the comment section of a joke?
We’ve gotten very far from the topic on hand, but sure, can you recommend me a few books I haven’t read?
what do you want to learn? How revolutions work and their stumbling blocks? How different societies have or might manage land? how we got here?
Economies are pretty big, complicated things. It’s easy to state an ethical standard you have, but it’s very hard to find a good way to do it.
Rent seeking should be banned unless there is significant continued investment by the owner.
That’s an interesting proposal. I can see how that would eventually fix the problem.
I’ll have to look more into it, but right now I think I’m on board.
Only allowing publicly and personally owned housing. Remove the concept of endlessly profiting off of dead labor.
