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      8 months ago

      ‘from the river to the sea’, which of course is antisemitism

      I think you mean anticolonialism.

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          8 months ago

          What do you call it when you forcefully remove hundreds of thousands of natives without letting them return and then replace them with people from all over the world?

          And this is still happening in the west bank.

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      8 months ago

      Only a racist would claim that a slogan which is at most anti-Israel is antisemitism because only a racist would would accept the “logic” chain of though required to equate Israel with Judaism: “all jews are the same hence they all support Israel hence Israel and Judaism are the same”.

      It’s even worse considering that some Jews are against the actions of Israel and even against Israel itself, so this person is saying that those Jews are antisemites (quite literally: against Jews), so a Non-Jew deeming some Jews as “Bad Jews”, a good old practice of, amongst others, the Nazis.

      One of the underlying messages of this cartoon is exactly that it’s the Zionist Karen that’s the real antisemite because claiming that somebody demonstrating against Genocide is against Jews, she’s implying that Genociding is a Jewish thing to do.

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      8 months ago

      Thanks for the nuanced comment. Of course the signs don’t only say ‘stop killing of children in Gaza’, but often ‘from the river to the sea’, which of course is antisemitism.

      Of course antisemitism ? That is what the repeated front-page news of mainstream media tried to make me believe a while ago, and then lots of politicians started to believe that as well, even banning that sentence in some countries. Here’s some information on it :

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea

      Many Palestinian activists have called it “a call for peace and equality” after decades of Israeli military rule over Palestinians while for Jews it is seen as a call for the “destruction” of Israel.

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      8 months ago

      The full chant is “from the river to the sea [Palestine will be free]” which to me means that the state of Israel is unwelcome. Hell I’ve joined in on that chant, even though I’m not theoretically 100 against a permanent Israeli settlement, so long as it takes on a very very different form.

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        8 months ago

        Even though the removal of the state of Isreal would mean the ethnic cleansing / genocide of millions of Jews?

        Israel isn’t going anywhere. Many Arabic countries have already successfully completed the total eradication of all Jews within their populations, so they need somewhere to call home.

        Oh by the way, the original Arabic translation of “To the river to the sea” ends with “Palestine will be Arab.” They just changed it in English.